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Sandy

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LST plans
« on: April 24, 2013, 08:28:33 PM »

Hi,
Does anyone have a set of plans for a wartime LST that I could borrow so I could have them scaled?
I believe it is know as the LST Mk3, and the Americans called them the 542 class.
I need the hull lines specifically (yes, I know they are basically a big floating box) but any help would be appreciated.
All the best
Sandy
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 02:25:06 AM »

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Re: LST plans
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 02:56:19 AM »

You might want to look here as well- LST-542 hull lines in either 1/72, 1/96, or 1/144. Also full ship plan in 1/72 or 1'144
 
http://floatingdrydock.com/
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 03:19:57 AM »

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Re: LST plans
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 08:51:32 AM »

You could also look at;
 
http://www.hnsa.org/doc/plans/lst983.pdf
 
These are GA deck plans but they could be helpful and they are free!
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 09:43:46 PM »

Thanks to everyone who posted.
 
I got two sets of plans. One set from Belgium of an LST542 class in 96th scale, now blown up to 48th scale...em, big.
And as et of the UK late war LST with the steam plant.
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2017, 09:02:22 PM »

I'm having a hard time tracking down LST III (i.e. British) plans, but I see you found some Sandy. Where can I also get hold of copies please? Many thanks.
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2017, 10:04:07 PM »

Just seen a set of plans for sale on ebay in Canada for 13.
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2017, 04:46:22 PM »

Have found the plans and details sent in PM.
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2017, 04:50:52 PM »

Many thanks David, you're a star!  :-))
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2017, 11:47:13 AM »

Apologies, I have been offline for a long while. The plans were returned to their owner quite a while ago, but glad you may have found another set.
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2017, 12:07:49 PM »

David was very helpful  :-)) , but unfortunately the plans were for an earlier LST (i.e. Mk 1 or 2)  <:( , whereas I reeeeeealllllyyyyy need plans for the Mk3 (i.e. British) LST ... In other words I never did find another set... my search is ongoing and I could do with ANY and ALL help and assistance please....  {:-{


Many thanks


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Re: LST plans
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2017, 11:16:21 AM »

You need the book Allied Landing craft of World War Two . There is an elevation/top deck plan/lower deck plan as well as specification details.
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2017, 11:22:06 AM »

Hi John,


Many thanks for your reply. Fortunately I already own that book. I specifically tracked it down (and a few others besides) to try and glean anything related to the LST III. Unfortunately the elevation/top deck plan/lower deck plan aren't really sufficient for my needs. Ideally I'd like to find a set of drawings with fine detail and lines plus body plans


Thanks again. Any helps is always very much appreciated  :-))


All the best


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Re: LST plans
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2017, 11:34:21 AM »

Also have hull lines for 542 ,can scan to you off board if needed
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2017, 11:39:06 AM »

Also have hull lines for 542 ,can scan to you off board if needed


If 542=LST III then that would really make my day/year!!!  :-))
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2017, 11:55:52 AM »

Doubt if you will get anything from Tom at FDD since he has gone and married a Polish lady and spends half a year in Poland and half back in Florida so he cannot keep his shop open. I now have picked up a lot more US customers who I deal with directly as opposed to them  dealing with Tom for my USN fitting of which I have loads
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2017, 12:09:40 PM »

According to the FDD website he is back today.


Just to be clear, this is a scan from the aforementioned Allied Landing craft of World War Two, showing the British designed LST III. The propulsion was different, but externally one of the biggest differences was the constant draft fore-aft (the earlier US designs had a shallow draft for'ard, deeper aft). The stern was different too, being of broader transom/raked, whereas the US LST-II was mostly an elliptical stern ending in a much narrower transom/rake. For these reasons lines/body plans are a must...



British LST III by Andy Ford, on Flickr
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2017, 02:59:26 PM »

For comparison here is an LST II plan from the same publication:



American LST II by Andy Ford, on Flickr


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Re: LST plans
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2017, 03:26:47 PM »

I'm also really fortunate to have a copy of The Design and Construction of British Warships 1939-1945 - Volume 3 - Amphibious Warfare Vessels & Auxiliaries (published by Conway)





This also contains comparative drawings for the LST-2 and -3:



LST 2 &amp; 3 comparative plans in The Design and Construction of British Warships 1939-1945 Amphibious Warfare Vessels &amp; Auxiliaries by Andy Ford, on Flickr


Note the difference in bow, stern, keel and overall length... nevermind superstructure! Never before have two "boxes" been so different?!  :}
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2017, 01:27:29 PM »

I'm delighted to report that Glasgow City Archives hold plans for LST Mk3 and a poster tube arrived today full of rolled copies I'd ordered!  :-))  (BTW in the end the FDD only had plans for the US LST Mk 2).

I've gotta say I'm absolutely over the moon!  :D

Hopefully anybody who is trying to follow the same path in the future will find this thread and know where to go asking!

For future reference here are the details of what I ordered (there were more drawings available, but I settled on these 7):



Landing Ships Tank (LST) Mk 3 ship numbers
723, 724 and 725, which in service were known as 'LST 3037',' LST 3038' and 'LST 3039', built at Govan Division. Glasgow City Archives hold many "Design Office Drawings and Technical Data (also for Ship No. 726 - HMS 'LST 3040')", starting with the reference UCS2/120/723 of which I ordered[size=78%]:[/size]

UCS2/120/723/1
UCS2/120/723/2
UCS2/120/723/28
UCS2/120/723/29
UCS2/120/723/30
UCS2/120/723/31
UCS2/120/723/36

I was charged 41.50, (comprising a 6.50 handling fee and a cost of 5 per sheet), plus postage. Postage is either 13 for the plans to be rolled and posted in a tube, or 4 to be folded and posted in an envelope.
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2017, 02:26:11 PM »

That is useful to know as a potential source

Did you have to ask for what they held in the first place or was there an on-line resource of their holdings?
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2017, 04:12:55 PM »

this link should help


https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/shipbuilding-records


once you know the yard which built the boat it gives you a guide to who holds the drawings :-))
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2017, 05:04:13 PM »

Did you have to ask for what they held in the first place or was there an on-line resource of their holdings?


I did some keyword searches via the National Records of Scotland online catalogue, then contacted the City Archives direct via their website to check they did indeed hold what was listed:


http://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/search.aspx
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Re: LST plans
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 03:00:52 PM »

I had the pleasure of sailing aboard HMS Striker  from Egypt to Cyprus. I would be interested to know some details and type of LST she was. We were supposed to sleep in folding bunks chained to the vehicle deck sides. The smell of fuel and petrol plus squeeks and rattles made it almost impossible to get any rest.  Most of the battalion slept on deck in any convenient corner. Calm passage with lightning storm on the horizon.
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