Topic: M/P Nuova Loredana Italian Fishtrawler (Read 196483 times)

maffen · « **Reply #625 on:** July 19, 2017, 12:58:33 pm »

Like i said before,looks good from far but don't look close

bfgstew · « **Reply #626 on:** July 19, 2017, 01:16:39 pm »

Can we see one of your models to see how it should be done then please!

missyd · « **Reply #627 on:** July 19, 2017, 06:29:52 pm »

Quote from: maffen on July 19, 2017, 12:58:33 pm

Like i said before,looks good from far but don't look close

Have you ever been on a fishtrawler????? Please show me your museum quality models ....

Never mind .... its just a forum troll!!!!

If it looks alright from 1-2 meters .... THEN ITS ALRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

The light with the 12V bulbs are ready to be wired.

Testing ... I tested all bulb several time during the build.

I had to use tons of paint the mask everything a little bit .... for myself I wouldn't have done it!!!! It ruins the clear look of the mast!!!!

The aint is drying and I did one half of the power supply cable.

Tomorrow I will add the two switches and finish this ASAP.

Dreadnought · « **Reply #628 on:** July 19, 2017, 07:33:50 pm »

Hi just ignore the troll

I think your model looks great in and out of the water

RAAArtyGunner · « **Reply #629 on:** July 20, 2017, 05:07:16 am »

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

But the only person who needs to be satisfied with a model, of any type is the builder.

In essence no model, this includes museum models are not 100% accurate representations of the real thing.

At best they are a 'look alike".

Won't go into the arguments here, why that is so.

However if it looks right which 'Loredana' does, then it is "right".

Keep up the good work, it looks even much better from where I am, even upside down.

missyd · « **Reply #630 on:** July 20, 2017, 05:22:39 pm »

hehe ... upside down!!! Good one!!!!

The two switches for the lights where on the go today. I used the simple method of using two brass rods to activate the each switch!

Its a little bit messy under the roof .... al wiring in the hull is neat but I couldn't et it tidy here.

I painted the missing Initials to the bow ... not my best work but my hands are getting older ....

Who will find the 3 new switches ... ?

Green over white for trawling

... and red over red for stopped, anchor etc. ....

Some pictures of the hull ...

And a short video from testing the lights!!!

https://youtu.be/bNDbRhvV0vQ

Tafelspitz · « **Reply #631 on:** July 21, 2017, 06:57:14 am »

Some very neat work being done here!

I have two questions for you.

1. Where did you find or how did you go about making rope that looks so convincingly like the real thing as depicted on this image?

2. Another thing I always wondered: how do you go about making white print on dark background like this? This is something that puzzles me and I'm going to need it for my Imara build.

missyd · « **Reply #632 on:** July 21, 2017, 12:11:52 pm »

Thanks a lot!!!

1) The ropes are made by myself .... I used the following rope making tool: http://modelexpo-online.com/ropewalk-scale-rope-making-tool-model-sh
But I did change it to my needs. I can make ropes as long as the biggest room in my flat ... some 5-6m long. I have plans ready to make ropes with a selfmade professional machine just like they use today ....

2) All lettering was made with adhesive letters. But I did only found this style of letter. Maybe using a professional plotter service they could plotter any style of letter.

This Video shows a good working rope machine .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=024aWbB2fwE

Tafelspitz · « **Reply #633 on:** July 21, 2017, 01:19:22 pm »

Great, thank you, Danielle!

missyd · « **Reply #634 on:** July 21, 2017, 05:47:51 pm »

Off we go with another project for the Loredana ...

First I cut half of a piece of driftwood into slices ....

Then I used my bandsaw to cut the slices into blocks .....

The other half was cut into boards .....

And then into beams ....

No I wont write what it will be in the end at the moment ....

ballastanksian · « **Reply #635 on:** July 21, 2017, 07:45:02 pm »

Given she is curently on her build cradle, I reckon you are making her proper cradle.

derekwarner · « **Reply #636 on:** July 21, 2017, 10:56:30 pm »

That's mighty dry drift wood Danielle

....with all of those blocks......could you be building a dry dock style mounting with the axis base of the hull settled resting on the blocks?.... & a few tapered wedge supports for the sides of the hull

Derek

missyd · « **Reply #637 on:** July 22, 2017, 05:57:04 am »

Yes!!!

I will build a dock style base. Base will be a dark acacia board and with the nice color of the driftwood blocks and beams .... should look very nice.
I wont be possible to use it as a transport cradle but it will look fantastic in the living room.

missyd · « **Reply #638 on:** July 23, 2017, 05:10:42 am »

Here some pics of building the baseplate .... The ship will sit horizontal (the deck) on it and not the keel like it is in reality ...

derekwarner · « **Reply #639 on:** July 23, 2017, 06:19:52 am »

Danielle....it is of course common practice for vessels of such size and design of the Nuova Loredana to rest in the dock with the deck being a nominal horizontal reference as level, however as we would hate some retired Dockmaster to inspect the arrangement & then suggest

it is all wrong

In real drydocks...there is a specific way sawn blocks are placed or oriented, and with all things being equal, the heart of a tree specie is the oldest and therefore the hardest

1. The heart of the block is in the horizontal plane and athwart ships. This allows the weight of the ship to compress the block without any splitting action. This also provides a cushioned consideration against the hull

2. If the blocks were placed with the heart in the horizontal plane, but with the heart running from bow to stern, the weight of the vessel would tend to split the blocks

3. if multiple blocks are used, the heart is staggered on/off, but always with the heart in the horizontal plane ....thus adding mechanical strength to the assembly of blocks

4. If multiple blocks are used, the uppermost top blocks contacting the hull are aligned as per point 1.

5. If multiple blocks are used, they are gang nailed to stop movement prior to the vessel being lowered to the blocks

Derek

MikeK · « **Reply #640 on:** July 23, 2017, 07:22:35 am »

That's what I like about Mayhem - you never stop learning !

Mike

missyd · « **Reply #641 on:** July 23, 2017, 04:56:11 pm »

Come on!!!! These ships are placed by these 100-300t craddle cranes on a level surface on any kind of wooden blocks or upright standing pieces of steelpipes .... I've seen it myself. They even use parts of treetrunks to support the ships .... everything hold together by gravitation from earth or some wedges hammered in between blocks and hull or maybe the weight of the ship ... I stood under the hulls when it was raining or to be in the shade if the sun was burning down too hot.... never mind .... it has to look good in the living room and there is no need to be correct in tecnical sense ....

derekwarner · « **Reply #642 on:** July 23, 2017, 10:28:03 pm »

Obviously Danielle you are not familiar with the teachings in the Old Testament ...maybe Genenis 5:33

where Noah berated the Head Carpenter of the Dockyard for not aligning the wooden blocks in the dock in the correct orientation prior to the letting down of the Ark

From this I can only suggest that some things were important to some people

RAAArtyGunner · « **Reply #643 on:** July 24, 2017, 03:37:42 am »

Derek,

Am in full agreement with your treatise on the use of raw lumber as in days of olde.

In Danielle's case the trawler's dead load would be insufficient to exceed the 'Carrying' capacity of the 'logs'.

Very interesting commentary, nevertheless.

derekwarner · « **Reply #644 on:** July 24, 2017, 03:50:46 am »

In our shipyards, the lighter the load the softer the timber chosen

..................and who would need log splitters if the Dockies weren't on their.......

toes ?......Derek

missyd · « **Reply #645 on:** July 24, 2017, 11:27:40 am »

FINISHED! I decided not to make a version like in real life but to make one that can hold the weight of the ship without breaking ....
Actually I am fed up with this ship and I can't see it anymore! I will not build another model ship for a friend. Never again!
... ok still 2 trawldoors to be made ....

PS: I'll start ASAP with my next project!!!!

derekwarner · « **Reply #646 on:** July 24, 2017, 11:40:24 am »

She looks very good on the blocks Danielle......

.............. Derek

ballastanksian · « **Reply #647 on:** July 24, 2017, 09:00:32 pm »

Beautiful and full of grace at all distances

As with so many of the Blogs on here it has been a joy to follow your journey from ply to paint.

I am looking forward to you start your next project Danielle.

jarvo · « **Reply #648 on:** July 24, 2017, 09:31:43 pm »

I know what you have gone through, you try for the best you can do, but at the end you have nothing to show for your efforts. Except our congratulations on a superb model, hope your friend appreciates your skill

Mark

MikeK · « **Reply #649 on:** July 24, 2017, 10:54:40 pm »

Thanks for yet another excellent build record and great model at the end. Here's to your next project

Thanks Danielle

Mike

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