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Mike0001

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traplets pilot and gentlemans runabout
« on: November 14, 2014, 03:12:52 pm »

hi

just bought these two kits, very sooty from laser cuts but look good quality

no plans so have to go by whats on here etc

questions

can anyone recommend a good glue for both boats

thinking ca glue for main parts and epoxy for internals ? am I on right lines before I start

also with the gentlemans runabout it says to fit rudder and motor really early in build ??

will try and do a whats in the box photo for reference
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Re: traplets pilot and gentlemans runabout
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2014, 01:14:37 am »

I was hoping that somebody with a bit more experience than I would have replied by now...but, here we go!

I've decided on one of the modern 'waterproof' wood glues for my pilot boat. No nasty odours, and no possibility of gluing myself to the boat.

Plenty of Mayhemers swear by CA glue, but I tend to swear at it.  >>:-( There's no perfect solution, and plenty of choices!

Tom
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Re: traplets pilot and gentlemans runabout
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2014, 01:17:17 am »

Oh, and it's probably a very good idea to wipe the edges of the laser cuts to remove the soot (that's what I did), and a very light sanding might help, too.

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Re: traplets pilot and gentlemans runabout
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2014, 06:50:49 am »

Yes a light sand to remove the blackness is a good move. You need to be careful not to remove too much material tho (don't ask how I know :oops: )
As for glue you can't go wrong with this stuff
www.shop4glue.com/aliphatic-resin-wood-glue-large-waterproof-sandable-yellow-resin-wood-adhesive-500ml-bulk-bottle-40-p.asp



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Re: traplets pilot and gentlemans runabout
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2014, 06:57:07 pm »

Aliphatic resin wood glue is good for boats, takes a little longer clamping time than standard wood glue but is fully waterproof.

A word of warning on CA glues, even though plenty of guys around here swear by it.

I was browsing through the question & answer page of the Evo Stik website last week. They do not advocate using ca glue in wet conditions as the glue can loosen and joints fail. I've never used a ca glue on anything that is immersible but a warning like that from a manufacturer makes sure I won't use it for anything I want permanent. The other problem with it of course is that joints need to fit perfectly, it has no gap filling properties.

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Re: traplets pilot and gentlemans runabout
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2014, 10:10:19 pm »

I have to say that I have never experienced a problem with water loosening CA glued joints, although I always thoroughly waterproof all my hulls, inside and out. Most of my boats were built using CA, and some are now more than 10 years old and have had many hours in the water. The thick variety of CA does have some gap filling properties, especially when the joint is sanded before the glue hardens. The sanding dust combines with the glue to form a filler. This only applies to relatively small gaps - 1 mm or so.


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