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Casablance Class Carrier - A Glynn Guest Design.
« on: January 22, 2015, 06:58:58 pm »

"Bodega Bay" was a free plan with Model Boat magazine.  A semi scale model of the Casablanca Class escort carrier to 1/144th scale, designed by Glynn Guest.  I've wanted to build a carrier for a while and after seeing the design written up in an Model Boat Warship Special I decided to give it a go.
Through the good offices of  Stan Geffin and Larry "thelongbuild" (Many Thanks to both these gentlemen)  I got hold of the plans and sorted through the plywood I had to hand.
At first sight the design is pretty simple but after going over the plans with a ruler some small discrepancies presented themselves.  but working around those was relatively easy.
The build article calls for Balsa, which I don't really get on with so I'm going with similar thicknesses of ply.  This will make the model slightly heavier but I can live with that.  Work began at the bottom and adding the bulkheads. (See G001 and G002).

I've also given some thought to the actual ship.  I'm going to deck it out as USS Guadalcanal.  The Guadalcanal operated in the Atlantic, one of only a few Casablancas that did, ranging as far as West Africa on Anti Submarine duties in company with 5 Destroyer Escorts, carrying over 20 Aircraft (FM2 Wildcats and TBM Avengers).
She was one of 50 Casablancas built and was renamed from Astrolabe Bay to commemorate the victory over the Japanese in the Solomon Islands.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2015, 08:51:33 pm »

HI TailUk You have been busy  you only got the plan yesterday. On doing some checking I found a picture showing U S S Mission Bay and Guadalcanal under tow to a Japanese scrap yard many years after the war ended both these ships served in the Atlantic. Good luck with the build.

Stan Reffin
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2015, 10:01:27 pm »

Despite not being one of them big fleet types, she still has lots of detail to get stuck into even if the model will become a stand off one.

Another interesting project to keep an eye on:O)
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Re: Casablance Class Carrier - A Glynn Guest Design.
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2015, 10:56:10 pm »

Good choice - it will make a lovely sailing model  :-)) O0
 
Dad built a version of this plan as the Gambier Bay when the original article was first published.  This was the result:
 

 

 

 

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2015, 11:07:16 pm »

Pictures re posted on request from TailUk. Model in grey primer about 60% complete and painted almost finished.
Stan.



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http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Gallery/StanR/index.html
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2015, 04:52:49 pm »

Looks like we lost a couple of posts in the outage.  Carl's dad did some nice work on his Casablanca and Stan's is just superb.  More pics of this great build can be found here.  http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/index.htm

My own efforts continue with transom and decks fitted and rudder tube installed. (see pics  G006, G007 and G008).  The bottom plate and decks have been shaped to allow the skinning in 2 layers of aeroply.  I'll then either GRP with light tissue mat or epoxy with model aeroplane tissue.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2015, 05:24:32 pm »

I love the look of birch ply and this is a pretty looking model.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2015, 07:17:27 pm »

Woodwork was on hold while I'm waiting for glue.  Turns out the stuff I'd intended to use had gone off.  So a little ironmongery was in order.
Made the rudder and tried my hand at a prop tube, first one I've ever made myself, very pleased with the result.  4mm stainless steel shaft in a 6mm brass tube.  Phospor bronze bearings, reamed and lapped in. (see G009)
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2015, 07:22:36 pm »

HI TailUk looking good. Looks like I will have to leave mine locked away from now on . I look forward to seeing the completed model in the near future all the best.

Stan. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2015, 08:35:48 pm »

That's the good thing about model boating, there is a mix of light model engineering as well as traditional woodworking skills and modern materials and technology. Lovely stuff. I like that rudder, is it made from sheet wrapped around the shaft?
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2015, 09:22:09 am »

I scored some thin copper that was left behind by one of our students.  I marked out the shape twice either side of the leading edge and folded it around a piece of 2 BA brass studding.  I got the 75W soldering iron out to fix the copper and brass, the copper runs the heat off really quickly so you need a biggish iron or a small torch to solder it.  I'll leave the top and bottom of the rudder open to allow water in and out.  The brass post fitted nicely into a piece of the 6 mm tube I made the prop tube out of.  The steering yoke will screw onto the top of the rudder post and be secured with a grub screw.
The prop tube was even easier I solder the phos bronze into the tube then skimmed and center drilled the ends on a lathe. I reamed them out to 4mm with a hand reamer.  The stainless was threaded for the prop and I threaded a small brass disc to help  lock the prop in place.  I left the inboard end of the shaft plain as I'll use a Huco coupling to connect the motor.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2015, 07:29:14 pm »

I saw the disk and thought it an attractive addition to the shaft. Lovely work 8) Thanks for the description of your build process, most interesting.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2015, 09:11:02 pm »

Hi Guys I have posted a third picture of Gambier Bay looking at the flight deck enjoy.
Martin thanks for your help. See above pictures.

Stan.

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Re: Casablance Class Carrier - A Glynn Guest Design.
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2015, 10:57:29 pm »

Hello Stan

 I too have been planning on building this. Can I ask you, is yours in 1/144 scale? If so, where did you get ALL the guns for it?

 Again Thanks for posting pictures, VERY inspiring.

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2015, 09:21:11 am »

Hi George My model is built at 1/96  or 1/8 to the foot most of the fittings came from John Haynes fine Scale Models. Model details  length 62.5 in long 15in across the flight deck and 18 in from the keel to highest part of the mast. Total time to paint 8 months lots of masking off. White Ensign in the UK did weapons at 1/144 sadly they have closed but Tomsmodelworks in the U S A are going take over the range. E/mail tomsmodelworks@aol.com 

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2015, 09:36:10 am »

Lots of masking on the hull and on the flight deck by the looks of it Stan.

Lovely work, Is she a working model? (Asks he looking quickly back through old posts to see if it has been asked before!)
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2015, 09:46:12 am »

HI the model is fitted with 6 channel radio and is fully working. But due to the delicate parts fitted to it I decided to use this model as a static display model. If any one out there wishes to build a working model then I would suggest that lots of minor detail be left off. In the flight deck picture so can also see a Liberty ship and part of a Fletcher Class Destroyer all at 1/96 scale. Re masking you are right I thought I had shares in TAMIYA but well worth the cost. Finally I have been asked many times about the number on the F/deck this is not vinyl it was masked and sprayed on

Many thanks on all your comments it is nice to know that a model that was finished in 2009 can still generate a lot of interest.

Stan Reffin . :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2015, 09:55:38 pm »

It is always good to see a 'new' model, as even if it was built a few years back, this is the first time we have seen it so the model is fresh to us, so interesting and inspiring.
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2015, 08:49:58 pm »

Not a great deal to report at the moment as we're just coming out of exam week so I've got a lot of marking to do.  The power train is sorted and has been test fitted.  the servo obliged by turning in the right direction for it's position.  There a photo of them in position but I can't post it just yet.
If important thing today is that the last of the Air Wing has arrived. (see pic G010)
The Guadalcanal was home to Navy Composite Squadron VC 36.  Composite squadrons were unusual in that they comprised different types of aircraft in the same squadron.  VC 36 was deployed on board Guadalcanal with a total of 23 aircraft, The Grumman FM2 Wildcat and the Grumman Avenger.  I plan to display 10 aircraft on the flight deck 4 Avengers and 6 Wildcats.
The Revell Wildcat is a F4F type not the FM 2 which had very minor differences and I'm not adding 0.5mm to the tip of the tails just for accuracy's sake. %%  Most people wouldn't be able to tell a Wildcat from a Hellcat any way {-) .
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2015, 01:32:21 pm »

As I mentioned I test fitted the motor/prop shaft and rudder servo.  The pictures are not quite as good as they were taken with my old camera.   The motor was fitted into a custom made plastic mount and fixed wooden bearers. The servo is up on wood blocks and brass strips act as push rods.  It's a little bit heavy but I think I'll be ok for weight. (see pics G011, G012 and G013).  I removed it all to prepare for hull plating and sealing.
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2015, 08:16:54 pm »


Good lateral thinking with the custom made engine mount  :-)) :-))
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2015, 04:57:04 pm »

I started plating the hull with 1mm aero ply.  I only had smallish pieces so couldn't manage one piece per side the first layer will use up the small bits  (see pics G014 and G015)and then the next layer will re-enforce the first.  I'll resin and mat over this later.
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2015, 07:17:17 pm »

It looks so heavy handed using drawing pins, but when you think the process through, you realise that the glass matt and resin will bond everything together and the holes will even provide some key as well.

Tidy build.
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2015, 07:46:17 pm »

HI Tail uk looking good will make contact when i get back home

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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2015, 08:57:19 pm »

It looks so heavy handed using drawing pins, but when you think the process through, you realise that the glass matt and resin will bond everything together and the holes will even provide some key as well.

Tidy build.

Maybe a little but the ply is harder than balsa so ordinary pins wont go through easily.  I'll get a little filler in the pin holes before putting on the next layer and as you say, the Resin coat and tissue will tie it all together.  I'll resin the inside too.
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