Topic: A NEW LIFEBOAT MODEL... STEAM LIFEBOAT QUEEN (Read 43252 times)

baloo · « **Reply #50 on:** September 27, 2017, 01:48:23 pm »

Bit belated but welcome back Neil,I am following the thread with every second I have, now Rottweiler you think your Clyde is big,I have been given,yes given something that needs a little tlc
baloo

Rottweiler · « **Reply #51 on:** September 27, 2017, 03:30:56 pm »

The mind boggles! Wow!
Mick F.

BFSMP · « **Reply #52 on:** September 27, 2017, 03:48:54 pm »

just asked him,...........well an hour or so ago, Dereck and he's as much in the dark as I am..........I've tried googling it without joy.

maybe you have a picture of this mystic bird.

Jim.

kinmel · « **Reply #53 on:** September 27, 2017, 08:14:33 pm »

The Yallaumbua bird always brings great pleasure.

If you have one in your hand, it saves on the washing up.

The best experience comes when you visit where it is born

BFSMP · « **Reply #54 on:** September 27, 2017, 08:49:16 pm »

the plot thickens...........now i'm totally confused

mind you, has been said before..........it doesn't take much to do that.

Jim.

derekwarner · « **Reply #55 on:** September 27, 2017, 10:38:37 pm »

OK.....

brilliant explanation kinmel....but don't tellém too much

...keepém guessing a little longer......

This will allow Neil to get on with his glass steam boat

.....and Jim...well...err... he can just get on & do what he does best

Derek

BFSMP · « **Reply #56 on:** September 27, 2017, 11:10:30 pm »

Quote from: derekwarner_decoy on September 27, 2017, 10:38:37 pm

and Jim...well...err... he can just get on & do what he does best

Derek

And that's not a lot really.

Jim.

Neil · « **Reply #57 on:** September 28, 2017, 10:46:57 am »

washed clean and cleaned up.......on to the next hull.

the pva release agent comes off easily with a little warm water and a bath...................sometimes, the bath just isn't quite long enough.

she has got lovely classic lines , what a classic lifeboat is all about, and even as early as1896 the bow shape has resemblance of the new Shannon with her cleaver sharp edge...........I wonder if the navel architects ever look at past designs for their new creations.

Neil · « **Reply #58 on:** September 28, 2017, 10:58:43 am »

by the way WTH are you lot bumbling on about.

the Yalumba bird [ note the spelling ] is otherwise known as a Cape Barren Goose and used as an emblem on the label on wines of the same name from Ozz...........either red or white .............and you can find it in good wine vintners or sometimes at Booths............Not that I shop there.................more an Aldi and Lidl red plonk man........so what's all the mystery.

Baldrick · « **Reply #59 on:** September 28, 2017, 04:06:54 pm »

It would seem that the forecastle weather deck on the Duke of Northumberland was quite a full rounded affair rather than squashed down.

BFSMP · « **Reply #60 on:** September 28, 2017, 04:17:42 pm »

Is that one of the 6 steam lifeboats, Baldrick.

Where on earth is that lying, and returning to the natural elements. Fascinating, but in a sad sort of way.

Jim.

Baldrick · « **Reply #61 on:** September 28, 2017, 04:34:46 pm »

The Photograph was titled the Duke of Northumberland, saw it on Flickr it did not give the location. Would appear to have been concreted in as a sea defence.

BFSMP · « **Reply #62 on:** September 28, 2017, 04:53:53 pm »

how sad!!!

Liverbudgie2 · « **Reply #63 on:** September 28, 2017, 05:19:42 pm »

It's on the Mersey, around the Hale - Widnes area. The Duke of Northumberland was the New Brighton Lifeboat for many years.

The late Les Jones built a superb working model of her which was exhibited at the ME, Southport and Colwyn Bay amongst others.

The model can be viewed at the Holyhead Maritime Museum together with other models Les built.

LB

BFSMP · « **Reply #64 on:** September 28, 2017, 05:44:22 pm »

That's very interesting indeed Liverbudgie.

The background buildings, I thought were somewhere abroad.

Is it on the Widnes side or the Runcorn side.

Jim.

furball · « **Reply #65 on:** September 28, 2017, 09:41:23 pm »

Widnes side, just to east of St. Mary’s Church.

It’s was moored up on the edge of a concrete plant, and all the excess was just poured along the bank, covering her.

You can just see her on Google Earth, not so easily on Google Maps.

Lance

BFSMP · « **Reply #66 on:** September 28, 2017, 10:04:29 pm »

thank you lance.
I'll have a look.

Jim.

having a look but can't find it..........could you do a snapshot of it from google earth and put on here.......I have no idea how to do such a thing.

kinmel · « **Reply #67 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:19:19 pm »

On this screenshot the hull is within the red "circle". Open Google Maps ands search for Widnes. Use the Silver Jubilee Bridge on the left as your reference point to locate the area and then zoom in as far as you can.

BFSMP · « **Reply #68 on:** September 28, 2017, 11:25:40 pm »

thanks kinmel.........I thought it was along that stretch from what lance said, but couldn't make anything out...........I'll have to get my magnifying glasses out and have a look.

thank you.

Jim.

Baldrick · « **Reply #69 on:** September 29, 2017, 04:11:59 pm »

It is just in front of that demolition site.

Neil · « **Reply #70 on:** September 29, 2017, 05:24:31 pm »

Quote from: Baldrick on September 28, 2017, 04:06:54 pm

It would seem that the forecastle weather deck on the Duke of Northumberland was quite a full rounded affair rather than squashed down.

Hi Baldrick.....thanks for the photo, going down to Widnes in the next week or so to try and find the old girl and take a few shots of her.

From what I see, you are actually looking at the stern end of her and the (once) watertight end box, bot extra protection against sinking if ever holed amidships. That might give the impression that it is more bulbous that the end box actually was, because there was a "tunnel" built on top of the end box, open at both ends to allow the steering ropes and pulleys to pass through for protection.

Mind you, I think all six steam lifeboats, 3 propeller driven and 3 hydraulic jet boats were all built by different builders. the three plans I have for covering the 3 hydraulic boats are all different in some respect.

anyway it's back to the build, and the end boxes have been moulded in exactly the same manner as the hull, except that there was no need to do a split mould as no overhangs or other strange angles which would need a split mould to release the moulding.

Baldrick · « **Reply #71 on:** September 29, 2017, 07:39:06 pm »

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Hi Neil.
Going to take a hacksaw with you to bring back a souvenir ?

And this might be handy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/coast_and_sea/tide_tables/5/456#tide-details

derekwarner · « **Reply #72 on:** September 29, 2017, 11:00:36 pm »

Neil......I found the actual image from Baldrick [with the bulbus cowling] interesting.....however found the links to plans near non existant

I did however find an image, and although an artists image

..... portrayed the general flatness of the hull end cowlings as per your build

I have seen steel plate buckle under load....[although without such uniformity]....so just wondering if time & tide & ground pressure could have contributed to the hull being subjected to a loading that created this raised bulbous appearance of the cowling?

The last remains of a rather substantial wooden rubbing strake? appear interesting...

Derek

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #73 on:** September 29, 2017, 11:24:03 pm »

It is really poignant to see the remains of such a ground breaking design.

Colin

BFSMP · « **Reply #74 on:** September 30, 2017, 12:30:31 am »

Quote from: Colin Bishop on September 29, 2017, 11:24:03 pm

It is really poignant to see the remains of such a ground breaking design.

Colin

it is Colin, very sad too.

I wonder if those that filled it with concrete those years ago ever had any idea just how important to maritime lifesaving and other developments they were destroying. We'll never know.

Jim.

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