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Shannon Build
« on: June 04, 2015, 12:53:31 am »

Have just recieved the full set of plans for the Shannon [Wednesday] £64.95 set of 5 with postage. So now the hard work sets in. I also understand that they might be releasing the plans for the launching tractor and carriage. This would be a good challenge as I have had a look at one.

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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2015, 01:30:00 am »

Did you get them from the RNLI shop john? They don't contain any lines drawings?
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2015, 01:44:19 am »

Hi that's going to be the challenge. Ilfracombes boat arrives on Saturday so hope to be able to look at her and see what is what.

John
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2015, 12:27:40 am »

Hi all I have made a plug of the  Shannon Hull to a point were I was happy with it and its now with the man how is making the mould and Hulls. I got my camera out to take some photos got called away come back and put the frame work around the Hull thought I had taken the photos. Here are a couple of photos of the Hull before it went.






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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2015, 07:27:18 am »

Looking forward to seeing the outcome.
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 11:09:18 am »

Hi John,
I've just looked at the RNLI shop which seems to be selling a 4 drawing set (not the 5 you got) for the Shannon at £80 or £20 for each individual sheet.  One of the drawings shown is the L&RS.  It all seems a little odd.  Did you get your plans from the RNLI shop or the drawing office?
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2015, 02:36:47 pm »

Hi, I was on holiday in Ilfracombe last week and got some photos of the new Lifeboat and Tractor. I will try and put them up if anyone is interested?
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2015, 03:04:14 pm »

Hi, I was on holiday in Ilfracombe last week and got some photos of the new Lifeboat and Tractor. I will try and put them up if anyone is interested?
Yes please Steve, very interested. :-))


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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2015, 03:07:28 pm »

Here's some of them having a training session on beach?
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2015, 03:16:46 pm »

Here's some a couple of days later, they launched it after the little RIB? Didn't have time to get up the harbour further.
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2015, 03:36:52 pm »

Great set of pictures Steve  :-))

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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2015, 12:55:57 am »

Hi got the plans from their online shop 5 for £60 plus postage and the trailer plan was £20 plus postage

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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2015, 06:16:14 am »

Hi,

I took a look into the shop. You can order 4 different "items". Maybe one "item" consists of more then one sheet. - I made this experience when I ordered the Mersey-plans some years ago.

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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2015, 06:20:29 am »

... its now with the man how is making the mould and Hulls ...

Hi John,

Hulls is plural ... will you (or the hull maker) offer hulls to buy?

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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2015, 06:43:08 am »

Hi i started out just making the plug for myself. If anybody wants one, I will get them made and sell them.  No price as yet as it depends on what it costs to have them made.

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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2015, 07:38:56 am »

Hi John,

I haven't finally decided to build a Shannon. But it's good to know there might be the option to buy a hull. That would save me much time.  ok2
What scale have you chosen?

Kind regards,
Jürgen
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2015, 08:29:26 pm »

That hull looks beautiful John. Looks like 1/12 scale to me and a very nice size it is. I am going to do a kit in both 1/12 and 1/16 scales and to do this, I am investigating 3D CAD so that a CNC machine can make both hull patterns. Jürgen, many thanks for all your hard work. The files are with the CNC company now to make sure they are all compatible and they can use them as they are.
I am writing this on my pad but tomorrow I will sort out the Freeship issue (excuses, excuses) on my PC.  I can hardly wait.
To anyone who is interested in 3D modelling and 3D printers and stuff, download 123D Design (It takes ages) but what you get is really good and its FREE!
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Youtube there are lots of very good, well structured training courses in 123D Design for the beginner, and I mean beginner (me).
After about four hours watching and playing I am definitely getting somewhere. I drew up the main winch of the Shannon last night and its ready to go to the 3D printer. Both scales can be done at the same time and you get an area of about 100 X 50 to fill with as many bits as you want. Its £40 for the first two hours and £25 per hour after that, (fantastic it is but fast it ain't).
So for less than £100 I can have the winch, that complicated release mechanism on the foredeck, a fairlead, the instruments on the bridge and whatever else I can cram in and in either scale!
The company with the printer is able to produce the parts in four different levels of finish from very good anyway up to polished. From these we make the silicone moulds and then resin cast them.
I might have a go it producing the entire 'cockpit' area as 3D drawings and then do the whole thing as a casting using this method.
Its at times like this I wish I was 60 again!
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2015, 06:36:00 am »

Hi,

yes, I made a virtual 3D model. Let's hope it works as planned.

Kind regards,
Jürgen
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2015, 09:24:31 am »

Hi Juergen,
That looks pretty good. Is Free!Ship easy to use, and how long did it take you?
Charlie

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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2015, 10:53:20 am »

Hi Charlie,

which software is "easy to use"? Well, it depends. I am not an expert in CAD-software. So I had no expectations. Now after some projects it's not to hard for me.
But in this special case it took me a lt of time (in sum: about 10 hours). I made a lot of mistakes. To correct it I had to revise the complete model several times. BUt this was complete my own stupidity.  ok2

Kind regards,
Jürgen
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2015, 11:34:52 am »

I had no end of problems with Freeship until I downloaded version 3.43.
If you use an older version you cannot open files produced on a later version so its a good idea to keep to the latest version.
 
Jurgen is being very modest here. To learn to do what he has done in just ten hours is very good going indeed!
The program is not difficult to use in itself but the Shannon is a complicated shape with all those chines and spray rails and that strange extended stern.


You do get a lot of sample ships to look at in the download and there is a manual so worth spending some time on.


Jurgen sent me the drawings of course and I tried to open them in a format that I could use on the laser. You can save to Autocad format and I can laser-cut from that though I generally use Corel Draw as the laser driver because i'm hopeless at autocad.


I think that this program could be as useful to the model boat builder as the six sections shown on the RNLI plans are the only ones that were used. Manipulating this information gives the hull shape and all the sections shown above are generated by the software.
This program could be as useful to the ship modeller as a ruler and pencil. Bulkheads or bread and butter waterlines can be generated in any scale so what more is there?


Try 123D Design as well. Its not difficult and a whole new world starts to open up.
(I'm getting carried away again)!

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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2015, 12:57:48 pm »

One more remark for those who are interested in FreeShip:
There is no manual for version 3.43. Use the one for version 2.6

Kind regards,
Jürgen

P.S. Unfortunately I cannot change my spelling mistakes in older posts. So, if you find some (I am sure you will), you can keep them.  ok2
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2015, 08:02:47 am »

Hi Juergen sent you a personal message no reply I was only trying to be helpful.

John
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2015, 12:09:49 pm »

Going back up the thread a little(!), thanks for the info John, I think I'll email the RNLI to see what's what.
Steve, great photos.
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Re: Shannon Build
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2015, 07:49:52 am »

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