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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #75 on: November 24, 2015, 09:01:00 pm »

That's the look I'm going for.
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #76 on: November 25, 2015, 12:26:00 pm »

Good job there was no MOT in those days, that would cost a few franks, super job Ken  :-))
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #77 on: November 25, 2015, 07:19:00 pm »


Hi all well started with some colour, you may notice not the colour I originally stated as I've given up on Citroen giving me the code (so now of course I will have to change the carpet colour :mad::mad:)
anyhoo here is the start of the rusting (lots more work to be done on it, but I think its a good starting point)

































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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #78 on: November 25, 2015, 09:31:54 pm »

FROG rust  O0 O0 O0

Well my Reanult 12 did >>:-(....until I injected 5 litres of fish-oil into ever panel I could drill a hole in O0

You are doing a great Ken :-))..... Derek
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #79 on: November 25, 2015, 09:42:06 pm »

Did your car not smell indecent after that Derek?
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #80 on: November 25, 2015, 09:51:03 pm »

Well I've just had someone suggest i use the salt technique to get a better effect (so this must be crap as that's the only method I've used on the whole of this build and he thought the engine bay was brilliant )
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #81 on: November 25, 2015, 10:00:39 pm »

Use the techniques you are happy with Ken as it is your model. I have seen quite granular looking paint surface where rust has bubbled underneath.

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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #82 on: November 29, 2015, 05:13:16 pm »


Hi all well after a disasterous reaction on the paintwork on this I've sorted it (will never be a great job but is ok as an old jalopy) did a bit more staining of the doors and the bodywork and added some rust effects to the black paintwork, still a long way to go on it but is starting to look better now.










































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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #83 on: November 29, 2015, 05:20:51 pm »

you're doing a great job


That looks just like the doors on my sons spitfire  {:-{
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #84 on: November 29, 2015, 05:28:14 pm »

The colours are spot on Ken. I can really believe that the doors are made from steel and not styrene. Once/if the doors are matted down then they will come alive if you see what I mean :-))
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #85 on: November 29, 2015, 08:46:19 pm »

Absolutely true to life rust & locations Ken :-))...yes the location of the rust is of critical importance

I think the French when designing in pre-CAD days [as all other manufacturers] used clay models.....however they still designed pockets or voids in doors & other panels that self sealed when painted.......so any moisture from a FROG mist was trapped in that void

My dear little R12 [as previously stated] was advertised as being painted by 'electrophori'sesis' or something like that with electrically charged paint........ well I think my R12 must have been painted in a Friday afternoon shift when the batteries were flat :o

To answer Ian's question........yes the vehicle did smell [a little fishie] for a few weeks especially in the hot OZ summer......that is probably why a great congregation of cats seemed to be forever licking the tyres.... {-) ...... Derek
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #86 on: November 30, 2015, 07:14:53 pm »


Hi all I was checking some of the pictures, one advantage of that is looking at pictures of things 2 and sometimes 3 times bigger than the actual thing you see faults you wouldnt see on the actual item, like for instance a lot of the flat areas of rust are, just that flat, no blistering and no reason to be rust coloured, so I,ve fixed that and dulled the doors and bodywork down and started blending panels and adding general grime (I must say I'm quite pleased with the results so far) if things carry on like this I think the finished thing will look quite realistic (of course having said that I will no probably go and ruin it)

































does anyone know how to dull down and dirty the windows and windscreen? all tip welcome.
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #88 on: November 30, 2015, 09:50:28 pm »

I remember my grans white escort car being at best semi matt and well rusted in places (she had it second hand in 1972 and we disposed of it in 2002:O) so what you are doing is great Ken.

Pace yourself and don't fret. You are creating splendid effects.
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #89 on: November 30, 2015, 09:51:01 pm »

Thanks for that, very helpful.
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #90 on: November 30, 2015, 09:56:00 pm »

When you're done I have the perfect next project for you :)





I'll send it to you if you like? I've got so many Kits that i'll never finish them all if I live to be 800 years old
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #91 on: November 30, 2015, 10:11:43 pm »

Would love it, but are you sure, that's very kind ( mind you, you may not like what I did to it, I seldom build out the box)
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #92 on: November 30, 2015, 11:59:28 pm »

Not a problem....
I would love it to go to someone like you who can really do it justice!


Its an Alfa so just think of how mad you can go with the rust!
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #93 on: December 01, 2015, 08:08:37 pm »


Hi all well I'm sure you must be getting bored of this by now (I know you're all so polite you wont say so) so I'll take advantage of your good nature and continue the onslaught.





















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« Reply #94 on: December 01, 2015, 08:12:41 pm »

Bored?
Never!
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #95 on: December 01, 2015, 08:22:41 pm »

Likewise, as I have no telly (not that there is that much of interest on there anyway) this is my entertainment watching interesting models being well built and finished.

I find it difficult to say anything productive after a while, so I do not reply to every photopost. (Phew say some!!!!!) I beleive in constructive critique that is meant to help and progress work, but it is difficult for effects especially as the environment can have a random effect on weathering and decay, and do not mention military modellers debates on Olive Drab!


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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #96 on: December 01, 2015, 08:54:46 pm »

Keep doing what your doing Ken, I want to see it when finished, with or without Rene' and the picture of the fallen Madonna with the big whatsits.  %%  %)
 and as Ian said I don't comment on ever post but I'm still following with interest. :-))
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #97 on: December 01, 2015, 09:01:30 pm »

I wasn't saying it for more comments, more because I feel I would be bored if I were you.
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #98 on: December 02, 2015, 08:33:28 am »

I'm sure you didn't Ken, I only meant it's far from boring for those of us that are following your progress. :-))
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Re: Heller 1/8 Citroen Traction Avant
« Reply #99 on: December 02, 2015, 01:33:58 pm »

Looking at the last picture in reply #93 evoked a strong memory of, believe it or not, a smell.
Years ago there was an abandoned Austin 7 up on a hill top in a somewhat worse condition. And there was that smell of an old rotting car. A very distinctive smell, but not unpleasant. My brother and I rummaged through the glove box and found an empty Navy Cut packet for 5 cigarettes. Windows were broken, and the rain and weather had pretty much done for the leather. Hence the smell.
Just a memory, and almost forgot, until I saw the picture.
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