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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #100 on: September 21, 2017, 06:20:39 AM »

Congrats on the new job! Nice to see other people also using Proxxon tools  8) . I have the same jigsaw, but it didn't come in such a nice, big tool case like yours back when.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #101 on: September 21, 2017, 03:41:47 PM »

Thanks to you all!!!!  :-)) :-)) :-))

Today I sanded down the frames so that I could ....



... glue one plank in place. There will be another one from the inside to get a bombproof hull.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #102 on: September 21, 2017, 03:57:12 PM »

Coming along nicely Danielle.
Great news about your new job.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #103 on: September 21, 2017, 11:12:08 PM »

Yes congradulations on the new job. I hope it is challenging and fun, or at least not a pain.

Will you seal the insides of the hull walls to prevent the planks from getting damp and musty?
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #104 on: September 22, 2017, 01:37:25 AM »

Well Danielle.....with fluency on 4 languages I immediately thought of a job in the United Nations.....but remembered from school that Switzerland was not a member of the UN  >>:-(....

All that appears to have changed as your homeland was admitted to the UN in 2002 :-X

Anyway...back to shipbuilding O0...you must have shares in the Proxxon machinery company

I think the actual construction of this build may surpass the splendour of your Nuova Lorendana......

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #105 on: September 28, 2017, 05:15:34 PM »

Thanks a lot Derek! I hope my Mady-Jeanne will be better that the N. Loredana. I have planned to have the netwinches working with the trawldoors.

This week I cut some planks ....



... and glued them on.



... picture without the clamps.



... on the inside is also row of planks.



... final result.



... another row of planks near the keel.



... a second row to make things more sturdy.



... and a final picture of todays work.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #106 on: October 09, 2017, 06:43:43 AM »

I was visiting brittany again last week. I visited the port of Loctudy and I couldn't believe what I saw .... the original of my Mady-Jeanne!!!! With a wooden hull!!! I took a lot of pics to have the details for my model. I will post pictures later ...  :}
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #107 on: October 09, 2017, 06:58:13 AM »

mmmmmmmm......."the original of my Mady-Jeanne!!!! With a wooden hull"

I am sure you realise Danielle that this can put a totally different aspect to the external hull as completed

You will not need to attempt the flatness of steel plates, but use this new knowledge to portray hull planking as true hull planking O0

In my little City of Wollongong, wooden hulled trawlers sit side by side with metal hulled trawlers......and it is always more interesting when one goes up on the slipway

I know which I prefer.......Derek

 
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #108 on: October 09, 2017, 01:13:47 PM »

Derek, its really nice to see how my "fantasy" hull in wood exists in reality!

Some pics of the "original" .... I made some other 50 pics of the details.  I think its 90% the same ship. But with pictures of it I can build it like it is in real life and not as another fantasy model.
















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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #109 on: October 09, 2017, 02:43:03 PM »

She's in great condition, the massive bows to protect her from the Atlantic storms and a well protected shelter deck for the crew processing the catch, are you going for the weathered look or just launched???


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #110 on: October 09, 2017, 03:47:52 PM »

I am going for the extreme used look ....  ok2
Which is much more difficult to make than the fresh from the builders yard look.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #111 on: October 10, 2017, 05:19:19 PM »

I had to adjust the shape of the bow according to the original.



As told before the frames of the bow are not ok .... 14 frames need to be redone or adapted to have the right shape.


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #112 on: October 10, 2017, 09:58:41 PM »

Hull planking very similar to  what I had imagined.....[similar sized trawler vessel]..........Derek
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #113 on: October 11, 2017, 07:16:34 PM »

Derek the planks are like then ones on the original!

First frame redone ....



The other frames are flexible enough to be bend outside a little bit.



At the end only 6 frames have to be made again. The front 6 do not fit at all.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #114 on: October 13, 2017, 04:06:36 PM »

Today I decided to get rid of the bow and/or the 6 frames at the bow. It is just impossible to use them with the right shaped frames .... first pics shows how misshaped the frames where .... I checked some frames with the plans and they matched perfectly. So I must say thatthe Delftship programme did non draw the frames to the right proportions ....



The first 8 frames are now wider and secured with a traversal piece of wood.



Time to get rid of the front 6 frames .... this went very quick and in just 30mins ....



.... the bow was naked again!



Time to get some cardboard cut and to shape the bow! Now I can see how the ships bow will look! And I can draw the new frames!!!!








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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #115 on: October 13, 2017, 06:09:37 PM »

Lucky you spotted the errors at this stage rather than when planked and worse painted.
Alas my own build is stuck with errors that would be major surgery. Hard to believe the number of years that they have got away with completely inaccurate plans and templates  >>:-(
I have stairs so narrow I can only fit handrails one side and will have to crank the stanchions outwards.
I feel like I need to build another to put all the wrongs right  {-)  NOT no way never
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #116 on: Yesterday at 04:56:01 PM »

I can't understand such errors!!! I should build my FV Cornelia Marie again as it is full of mistakes .... but I wouldn't do it. Anyway ... nobody has ever seen the CM live so nobody will notice the error ...

Time to make the new frames .... all starts with cardboard ....



After the third frame, every other one will be fixed to the keel in an angle .... just like the real thing. I drew some lines in pink.



But before cutting any plywood I have to draw the new frames from the cardboard ones .... here you can see how much difference it was between the plan and the model ....



3 Frames are done .... another 5-6 to do. Some of the frame can be draw only one after another. First I have to make say #40 in plywood before I can draw #41.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #117 on: Yesterday at 09:10:46 PM »

Your FV Cornelia Marie is wonderful and even if it isn't 100% it's 99.9% I had the pleasure of meeting Captain Phil Harris around 15 years ago on a visit to Seattle, I also met Johnathan Hillstrand they where both the most obliging chaps and I had a tour around the Time Bandit

Anyway back on topic this build looks phenomenal and fantastic attention to detail and if it turns out anything close to some of your other builds it will be amazing  :-))
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #118 on: Yesterday at 10:00:12 PM »

Like you Danielle cant understand how you could have been so far out of alignment, but you have saved the day, all about to be fixed. (onwards and upwards!!!!)


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #119 on: Yesterday at 10:07:56 PM »

OK Danielle....we see you are now using radial spacing for the replacement bow frames..."just like the real thing"

We see the difference in Frames 35......it appears that the presentation of the original Frame has been take in plain End Elevation view without considering that the actual frame is positioned in a radial placement....

The only way to see a true profile of that Frame would have been to view it in End Elevation, but offset by the same angle

If we go one step further back, it certainly could have been that when the original plans were converted or manipulated in the software NaviCad? or DelftShip, that these bow Frames were not marked as from radial placement etc ...

The software can only provide and print out a Frame profile as to the dimensions provided by the person entering these ....so this does explain the human error or misunderstanding

As frustrating as it can be, the only important point is that now you know the hull will be correct :-))....

Derek

BTW.....frames in radial placement offer far greater strength [against the force of water] than frames in angular/straight placement
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