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chas

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Very strange old ships!
« on: October 31, 2015, 02:28:51 PM »

a picture is worth a thousand words, have a look at these very odd vessels. the pictures are from an old Eagle annual, I refuse to grow up.
 I found one reference to the connector on the web, so it was at least a proposal, though I canīt imagine it being built, think of the stresses involved.
 The weird ferry is at least a possibility for a model, though it will take a better person than me to do it.
 right, back to Dan Dare now !!!!


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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2015, 05:27:39 PM »

I've seen mention of the hinged one somewhere, many years ago. Wouldn't have been in the Eagle though.


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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2015, 05:30:38 PM »

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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2015, 07:23:51 PM »

Didn't the 'Connector' also come apart into three sections for ease of docking?
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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2015, 11:06:10 PM »

Didn't the 'Connector' also come apart into three sections for ease of docking?


See first picture... %)
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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2015, 01:30:01 AM »

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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2015, 08:06:24 AM »


See first picture... %)


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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2015, 08:25:50 AM »

Martin, I like the cigar boat, but I can't make out the paddle / impeler in the middle. Any ideas?
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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2015, 08:37:38 AM »

I think this thread is intended to encourage me to build another weird ship. 
Some good food for thought.   O0
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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2015, 09:16:24 AM »

I remember seeing a model of th Ross Winans back in the 1970s. I think it may have been built by Colin Gross.

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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2015, 10:54:32 PM »

Martin, I like the cigar boat, but I can't make out the paddle / impeler in the middle. Any ideas?

It was a 'radial propeller', driven by a steam engine in the hull. Not sure how the engine and propeller were connected, though.

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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2015, 11:18:16 PM »

I've never heard of a radial propeller, I'll google it later. At a quick glance I presume it's in a sealed slot in the hull. Weird,there were some odd ideas in the early days of steam shipping.
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Re: 2 very strange old ships
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2015, 10:40:34 PM »

That is one of the Cigar ships designed by and built for the Winnan brothers who were millionaire railroad barons.

They knew nothing about nautical architecture and so developed some radical ideas, some evolutionary and some revolutionary. Their plan was to design a ship with the minimum of water and wave resistance. All three of their ships had perfectly round hulls. At least one had a novel ballast pendulum moved using a huge steam cylinder to move the pendulum counteracting the movement of the propellor as there wee no keels nor even bilge keels!

The Radial propellor of this vessel was driven by two steam engines on a common shaft with one engine in either end of the hull. This was split in two by the propellor with contact across the flying bridge and a catwalk over the propeller housing. This ship suffered from severe stress damage to the drive shaft due to hogging and troughing.

The Ross Winnan had a radial propellor at each end and a superstructure. All three ships were well maintained despite never sailing after their initial trials and were broken up in the 'ninties of the last century.

John Guthrie's book 'Bizarre ships' has an article on these, the very enigmatic articulated ship as well as many other mad designs, though it does omit the Ernest Bezin. Worth a look as it does have some plans of several of the ships plus period illustrations that could help with building a model.

Guthrie says that the Winnans need not have made such narrow cigar ships as the resistance is still not great for a wide cylidrical hull, so I one day fancy building a 'what if' cigar liner!.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2015, 08:34:43 PM »

So unlike so many of its odd sisterhood, the vessel actually still exists, even if under ground.

Interesting Martin, thanks for finding that gem.
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Re: Very strange old ships!
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2018, 11:41:04 PM »

 
Deutschland class merchant U-boats

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM_U-156




 
 
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