Topic: Hello From USA Wanting help with first boat (Read 16168 times)

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #25 on:** May 17, 2016, 06:16:25 pm »

yay I got my solidworks working. i guess I needed to install a couple drivers to fix the error which is a workaround for the visual studios files causing the problems. so now I can start putting the hull together and take some screenshots. going to take a day or two to get everything set up and going but now I am good to go.

Arrow5 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 18, 2016, 05:15:24 pm »

Help is on it`s way from Milan in Italy ! See post from our newest Mayhemer Andrea in Milano. He has posted a source of Italian ship plans including the Andrea Dorea liner. Can I ask what your first model aircraft was ? Mine was f/f Vic Smeed "Tomboy" with an ED Bee 1cc diesel . If you are on RCGroups.com check out the liners by Greenseaships, quick, cheap, big oh yes and cheap as in inexpensive

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #27 on:** May 18, 2016, 05:22:49 pm »

thanks and my first was a sharky 45 control line plane back abt 1974 my first warbird was a royal corsair I built on my ship in 1979 when I was in the navy

I am currently working on putting all the bulkheads on the hull in solidworks. it is slow during the week as I am working 3rd shift so only get a couple hrs to work but this weekend I should have them all done then can start tweaking them

Arrow5 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 18, 2016, 05:31:20 pm »

Did you find Area`s post ???

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #29 on:** May 18, 2016, 05:36:44 pm »

yes just posted you might wanna look i posted my plans there you can see how detailed they are

I am uploading my Bath shipyard Fletcher class destroyer microfilm but will be 30 mins before it is finished

http://www.proflooney.net/Bath-Shipyard-Fletcher-Class-Destroyer-Microfilm.rar

http://www.proflooney.net/AndreaDoriaPDFFiles.rar

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #30 on:** May 18, 2016, 05:41:36 pm »

I have my screen share running if anyone wants to pop in and watch me do my cad work there is a chat box there if you click on the chat bubble to ask q's

https://join.me/927-807-027

g6swj · « **Reply #31 on:** May 18, 2016, 05:48:01 pm »

Joseph,
Had a real quick look at your working on your design - looks very good - you are obviously very familiar with the CAD package. The screen share is also quite amazing - have to go and cook now otherwise I think I would just have stayed and watched as I was quite mesmerised...

Regards
Jonathan

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #32 on:** May 18, 2016, 05:49:02 pm »

well ill be on for few hrs and this weekend all day

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #33 on:** May 18, 2016, 05:51:19 pm »

basically I am placing formers but because the cad prog they were originally drawn in has tons of short splines i am retracing into a cleaner less computer memory hogging format

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #34 on:** May 24, 2016, 08:12:35 pm »

well I lost everything (( I had gotten new drives and my data drive failed so finally got the replacement in and my system totally reformatted and just finished installing and updating everything. so I guess time to start over. I think until i know my system is stable again I will try to find me a set of plans I can draw up without putting the time in i need with the andrea doria. then once I know the systems stable I will start redoing the andrea. so now it is back to figuring out what to build. and finding the plans i had found before grrrr i hate computers lol

Umi_Ryuzuki · « **Reply #35 on:** May 25, 2016, 03:47:56 am »

Quote from: ProfLooney

yea I know but on some boats those half breadths run together and hard to tell which goes where. I been into scale aircraft for a long time and am very "xxxxx" on details etc of my planes I guess thats transferring into boats with me trying to find something even if I have to draw up my own detailed set problem is all i find is these old stale looking 50s and 60s boats and would love to find a semi newer cruiser or powered yacht

There are some lines and design drawings here for a Sport Fisherman.
It's a contemporary boat/yacht.

http://www.lidgarddesign.com/mono_power.html

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #36 on:** May 25, 2016, 12:59:33 pm »

I Likey thanks you hit the style im looking for. I am also doing the Nordkap I think its a billings boat found the plans on line and blew them up. keeping the deck around 45 inches which will make the boat close to 48 inches. this way I am under 48" on my parts enough I can laser them out fine. but def gonna grab what I can from that fishing boat too. I used to build real 36' Marlin boats for a living in the 90s and bass boats too

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #37 on:** May 25, 2016, 01:05:59 pm »

hmm the fishing boat just has study drawings but in the list it doesnt say anything abt bulkheads etc but still could prob dream something up

tigertiger · « **Reply #38 on:** May 25, 2016, 02:23:52 pm »

You may be familiar with construction method.

The frames/bulkheads don't need to be solid. Often they have the centres cut out. This leaves room for fitting ballast, batteries, motors, RC gear etc. You can use a shallower keel than shown in the drawing supplied, but it may need to be a little thicker.
When the frames are cut out, leave extra material as tabs. These are then attached square to the building board using blocks. The hull is constructed upside-down. When the hull is completed, just saw off the tabs to release the hull from the building board.

If you look on the build logs pages on here you will see this method used several times.

Hope this helps.

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #39 on:** May 25, 2016, 05:20:13 pm »

yes I am familiar with that we use it doing planes too. I have steered more and more away from tabs over the years in favor of jigs as the project is more stable, squares up better, and nont need to worry abyt tabs breaking off or breaking and tearing off part of your piece.

what I really wished I could find is someone really good with cad like solidworks and really good with tables of offsets to try and help me figure out the transom on this fletcher class destroyer I started cadding up many yrs ago. I got everything but the transome area finished but the transom isnt coming out correct and is giving me fits. I have the complete set of bath shipyard drawings and all 220 bulkheads are in my cad program and fixed from the small errors in them but the transom. I was thinking would be nice to do a fletcher class destroyer full scale all in cad as came from shipyard but also be cool to do in 1/32 scale with working torps and depth charge shooters

Arrow5 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 25, 2016, 06:01:22 pm »

Has the Andrea Doria been shelved ? Meantime you could knock a couple of Springers together for the grandkids

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #41 on:** May 25, 2016, 06:14:38 pm »

yes the Andrea is one of them long projects and because I lost everything with new hard drive problems I want to hold off until I am sure my computer is stable. I had one new drive go bad so had to replace etc. i think they making computer stuff cheaper and cheaper just so you have to replace more often. I did go with a solid state drive for my main drive though.

I am doing this NordKap Trawler right now it seems like something simple to throw together then can do one all decked out

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #42 on:** May 25, 2016, 07:07:37 pm »

well got my Keel Laid but I thunk I need to redo it as it seems even though I went by the deck length if 42" somehow t is ending up at 92.5" so I need to see whats up with it somewhere my calculations are off I enlarged the plans 355.8% to give my top viewdeck 42" but the keel says it is 500 mm long or 70 something inches

Umi_Ryuzuki · « **Reply #43 on:** May 25, 2016, 07:34:15 pm »

Quote from: JosephHuntley on May 25, 2016, 01:05:59 pm

hmm the fishing boat just has study drawings but in the list it doesnt say anything abt bulkheads etc but still could prob dream something up

The bulkheads would have to be extrapolated from the lines they posted here.

http://www.lidgarddesign.com/monoPower_images/mT60Lines.jpg

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #44 on:** May 25, 2016, 07:42:33 pm »

so thats the same hull?

the prob I am having is I think the plans I downloaded were scaled and not original size as the dims just dont add up

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #45 on:** May 25, 2016, 07:43:16 pm »

I have the hull lines etc let me take a screen of what I have

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #46 on:** May 25, 2016, 07:48:07 pm »

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #47 on:** May 25, 2016, 07:50:34 pm »

ok in the upper left you have the main deck. I have it set at abt 44 inches. now if you look at fig 1 it lists the keel at 550mm which when scaled to match same scale as deck it comes to like around 70 something giveing the overall length of 90 some inches so theres no way that deck is correct length thus the plans cannot be at full scale

Umi_Ryuzuki · « **Reply #48 on:** May 25, 2016, 10:53:55 pm »

Plans are almost guaranteed to NEVER be at a convenient scale.
Most likely, the scans you have of the parts sheets are non scaled.
So the factor that works for the parts sheet will not coincide with the
factor required for true dimensions.

So if you want the deck at 44 inches, then you would have to figure out the
amount to subtract from the bow and stern stems, and then calculate the
length of the keel proper.

JosephHuntley · « **Reply #49 on:** May 26, 2016, 02:13:42 am »

yea thats why i am hoping someone has built it and can tell me what the proper length should be for the deck. cause the length of the entire boat is 31.88967" original but then there is a slight bow to the deck so that will change some stuff too thats why need to know the proper length of the deck flat and that sets everything thing else up

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