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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2016, 08:48:54 pm »

On the watch list, S99...thank you.
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2016, 09:45:42 pm »

Overkill Rich, far too big for your launch.
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2016, 10:24:51 pm »

 Mamod make a  small marine steam engine and a suitable boiler. May be worth having a look on there web site http://www.mamod.co.uk/shop-categories/double-acting-twin-oscillating-engine
A bit pricey for a tight wads like me
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2016, 11:30:29 pm »

Overkill Rich, far too big for your launch.


Thanks Kev... :-))





Mamod make a  small marine steam engine and a suitable boiler. May be worth having a look on there web site http://www.mamod.co.uk/shop-categories/double-acting-twin-oscillating-engine
A bit pricey for a tight wads like me
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That looks nice, Frazer...what boiler would go with that?
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2016, 03:53:50 am »

A couple of options from Australia. The company are first rate manufacturers, I know the guy well who builds the boilers.
http://www.miniaturesteammodels.com/4057-miniature-steam-2-inch-vertical-boiler
http://www.miniaturesteammodels.com/5027-avon-twin-cylinder-oscillating-engine-assembled
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2016, 10:38:42 am »

A couple of options from Australia. The company are first rate manufacturers, I know the guy well who builds the boilers.
http://www.miniaturesteammodels.com/4057-miniature-steam-2-inch-vertical-boiler
http://www.miniaturesteammodels.com/5027-avon-twin-cylinder-oscillating-engine-assembled


Thank you Geoff, very interesting reading.


This would be ideal Rich.
http://www.miniaturesteammodels.com/4051-2-vertical-boileratyne-steam-plant-assembled


And thank you, Kev...that's a very compact little plant. The kit should be here in a while, so I get some measuring done and see how we go.
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2016, 12:58:53 pm »

A link for the mamod boiler
http://www.mamod.co.uk/product-category/marine-engine-and-accessories
Iv no idea how well they perform although Iv seen one in the Kingstone  Launch on utube that seems to run well
Good luck with the build
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2016, 01:08:27 pm »

Thanks Frazer...I know absolutely nowt about steam, so I'm grateful for all the assistance you guys have provided.
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2016, 08:51:41 pm »

You could also look at the Regner marine range for some compact and sub-compact steam plants:
http://www.thetraindepartment.com/regner/steam-engines/
Or Regner's original catalogue, but only in German, at the bottom of this link: http://www.regner-dampftechnik.de/
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2016, 09:25:55 pm »

I am at present totally and utterly confused with all the information you guys have very kindly supplied. My knowledge of steam would struggle to cover  a pin head, so you can see why I've confused myself so badly.


But, life and model boats go onwards...I've decided to build the boat first, and then worry about installing the power plant. I guess that's probably the wrong way to go about things, but I never build anything right, so it's home ground to me.



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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2016, 10:48:24 pm »

It is indeed much easier to build a hull around an existing steam plant. The way you want, hull first, steam plant later, is possible too, but potentially more difficult. I did it, and went through 3 different steam plants until I was reasonably happy with the outcome.
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2016, 11:03:19 pm »

Hi U33

    Not quite sure where you are, but these guys might be near and be of help     http://www.msmec.org.uk/index.php?page=about-us
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2016, 10:58:09 am »

Hi U33

    Not quite sure where you are, but these guys might be near and be of help     http://www.msmec.org.uk/index.php?page=about-us


Hi S99..


They are about an hour or so from me, but...I've just discovered that there's a Model Engineering Club based in our village, and they meet in a club room just five minutes walk (even at my greatly diminished speed...) from my front door.

http://www.padmec.org.uk/

They seem to be mainly railway orientated, but steam is steam, whether it be on wheels or on water, so I'm thinking a visit is called for. The club room is licenced as well...


It is indeed much easier to build a hull around an existing steam plant. The way you want, hull first, steam plant later, is possible too, but potentially more difficult. I did it, and went through 3 different steam plants until I was reasonably happy with the outcome.

I knew I'd be doing it wrong...but, it gives me some time to raise some much needed funds for the steam plant, and also gives me something to do whilst the other half is working.
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2016, 11:46:53 am »


Hi S99..


They are about an hour or so from me, but...I've just discovered that there's a Model Engineering Club based in our village, and they meet in a club room just five minutes walk (even at my greatly diminished speed...) from my front door.

http://www.padmec.org.uk/

They seem to be mainly railway orientated, but steam is steam, whether it be on wheels or on water, so I'm thinking a visit is called for. The club room is licenced as well...


I knew I'd be doing it wrong...but, it gives me some time to raise some much needed funds for the steam plant, and also gives me something to do whilst the other half is working.

Rich,
It's one of the best things that you could do, not only will you gain Model Engineering experience but make some friends locally.
Most of the Loco owners will have their own work shops and no doubt will gladly help you in setting up a workshop in the future and it will be great company on a winters night.

George.
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2016, 07:14:23 pm »

Rich,
It's one of the best things that you could do, not only will you gain Model Engineering experience but make some friends locally.
Most of the Loco owners will have their own work shops and no doubt will gladly help you in setting up a workshop in the future and it will be great company on a winters night.

George.


They have an open day on tomorrow, George....so, guess who's taking the other half out?


We've just had some good news, so there is a remote chance of maybe a shed on the horizon...
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2016, 02:40:57 pm »

    May be heresy, but if you can't make a working steam plant,  why not power it with an electric motor and hide it inside a "mock" boiler and steam plant. Would simplify thinks and be a good deal cheaper


Have a look at my Streamlinea article in September Model Boats, that exactly what I did,looks lovely.


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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2016, 04:58:16 pm »


We've just had some good news, so there is a remote chance of maybe a shed on the horizon...

  Having lost my garden wall to winter storms ( a somewhat expensive item to replace)  , the rebuild did feature a clearing of the old 6x4 "bits" shed which , like me, was past its best.  I now have  a nice new 8x6 shed with a sturdy workbench on which to "murder" wood and metal in to approximate boat shaped objects.   The cat which used to sneak into the old shed via a loose plank is still waiting for me to install a cat flap so she can explore the new empire ( and curl up in there when it suits her)
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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2016, 11:35:45 pm »

U33,

Ran across this thread and did not see if you every found your plant.

I wanted to point you at a chinese outfit that I have had good results with.

http://stores.ebay.com/Microcosm-Engine?_rdc=1   

All different types of steam gear.  The owner - Jin, is honest, but sometimes
lack english translation skills.   He has some nice little oscillator engines that
might work.

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Re: Steam plant help needed, please...
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2016, 08:36:14 am »

Bonjour,
Example of Micrcosm work (no more tug available, I bought the last one) :
The steam plant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO16806-3pM and the navigation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sdyREhRPj8
I also bought him a turbine, modified and tested by a friend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4jFwIQpJ5k
I confirm the little Goggle Translation misunderstandings and the time needed to receive the packages, but he is very kind and never discussed to change broken parts for free.
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