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steamboatmodel

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Re: How to do this...
« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2017, 10:17:50 pm »


I think it would be a very wet decked boat.
What is the idea behind it?
Not a bow ram I hope!
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Re: How to do this...
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2017, 11:22:23 pm »

There are 2 plans available, HMS Vectra at approx 1.4m long I think, with little detail to go on, there is also HMS Spectre, which I think is essentially the same but around half the size, and may have more detail to it. I've already got the Vectra plans but might get the spectre plans too sometime and hope they have more detail.
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Re: How to do this...
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2017, 01:27:35 am »

It might be better to work from plans, because the hydro-dynamics are completely different to what most of us have seen before. One person hinted at submarining, which could be a case if you get the balance between down forces and up forces wrong. Wave piercing is, I guess, a balanced momentary submarining. You could probably do this through trial and error, to get a model that sails well, but the cost of redoing several times is probably more than buying plans.


The other thing I noticed, on the pic I posted earlier, is that the transition is amidships, it is much more than just the bow.


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Re: How to do this...
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2017, 10:41:04 am »

Thank you, gentlemen....your comments and advice are most gratefully received. I've just managed to delete my whole folder of 'stuff' related to these craft from my laptop, so as you may guess, I'm not very happy about that... >>:-(


Thank you all again...
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Re: How to do this...
« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2017, 10:55:28 am »

Are you using Windows? If so right click on the folder that uses to contain your data and click restore previous version. Otherwise google recovering deleted files.
Best of luck
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Re: How to do this... ( reshape the bow section )
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2017, 11:07:47 am »

I would say to recover the data.

It's your interest and a very interesting subject.  You certainly have roused the member's attentions and have had quite a few views on the subject..

Keep going,  you may be onto something.   :-))

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Re: How to do this... ( reshape the bow section )
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2017, 02:52:11 pm »

The Bow shape is similar to that for X Bow vessels in that the bow is designed to break up waves. It was found eons ago that the ram bows of Pre dreadnoughts etc had a similar effect and this has been brought back for merchant ships as Bulbs and as you see here as a fully developed bow.

It probably has the same strength as any modern ship's bow and so would crumple rather if used as a ram!!!!

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Re: How to do this... ( reshape the bow section )
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2017, 02:40:49 am »

For cargo vessels, the need to maximize hull capacity may be why a bulb has been used. The stiletto would make no sense, other than fuel efficiency and more stable ride.
For military it may be that speed and stealth technology (reducing radar profile) may explain the lines that are chosen. The only downside is reduced deck/weapons carrying/operational area.
I also read that the X-Bow is starting to be used on cargo and military vessels. I guess it takes time for new ideas to be adopted, and the X-Bow is a fairly new (2006) technology.
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Re: How to do this... ( reshape the bow section )
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2017, 08:10:14 pm »

Makes perfect sense TT.
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