Topic: Graupner's Programmable Sound Module & Amp?is it the best for RC Tugs? (Read 5788 times)

rctugman · « **on:** May 15, 2017, 02:58:51 pm »

Hello Fellow Members
This is really just a very quick question,I have always loved the idea of integrated sound systems? I know they are not always popular,but I am hoping to buy one of the "New Castle" Carson Tugs
and I really would like sound.Other than the fully programmable Graupner above are their any other very similar sound systems available+

Many thanks In Advance
Steve

C-3PO · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2017, 03:37:33 pm »

I think the Graupner one you are referring to ( http://www.westbourne-model.co.uk/acatalog/Graupner_Programmable_sound_module-2041-ext.html)

was made by these guys https://www.beier-electronic.de/modellbau/produkte/usm-rc-2/usm-rc-2.php?sprache=gb

They have added a fair bit of functionality to it....Google USM RC2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tpYHtsocFE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Q-7JpZcRQ

Note - it's not just for cars......

And this one shows how it can play more than 2 sounds all at the same time inc JukeBox functionality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBh6cfg4IvA

And an idea of the sound quality - the PC App is being used to trigger the sounds on the board for setup purposes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JXSgb0gwBc

And you can use it to switch lights on / off - trigger automated sequences, play random sounds ( seagulls etc)

Unless you have played with one for a while it's difficult to appreciate how clever the software is and what functionality is provides for a modeller - but here is a summary

Quote

Universal module to control sound-, light- and servo functions
Suitable for all types of commercial remote controls
Individually programmable
With 170 ready to use sound projects and over 700 sound files
Speed-dependent engine and movement sounds
Powerful built-in amplifier for optimal sound quality
12 switching outputs for LEDs, lamps, relays, etc.
Free programmable light and sound sequences
2 programmable servo outputs
Easy transfer of settings with micro SD card
Easy updating of Sound-Teacher and firmware
Extension accessories available

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C-3PO

Netleyned · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2017, 03:54:51 pm »

Sounds like (excuse pun)
you will be paying more for the sound
unit than the tug.

Ned

C-3PO · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2017, 04:00:50 pm »

Quote from: Netleyned on May 15, 2017, 03:54:51 pm

Sounds like (excuse pun)
you will be paying more for the sound
unit than the tug.

Ned

https://shop.carson-modelsport.com/carson_en/carson/carson-rc-models/boat-models/rc-boot-new-castle-arr-500106007-en.html

........800 plus Euros or have I got the wrong one?.....

rctugman · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2017, 04:56:19 pm »

C-3PO & Netleyned
A big thank you for your replies, very much appreciated.
normally I think I would be in almost total agreement with you, the sound system especially if you include the amp is expensive

but as I only ever intend to own the one boat which will easily out live me, then I think the extra for the sound plus lighting and smoke to me at least is worth it.

Ideally as I am unable to do much of the work myself, I could do with someone to take delivery of the boat and fit and programme the sound unit for me,look guys its a very long story, so I beg your indulgence,Their are very good reasons why I am trying to do this!which is not the ideal route in normal circumstances i concur.

If their are any Suitable/knowledgeable,individual or company who can carry out the work please PM or mail me.

Many thanks Steve

Netleyned · « **Reply #5 on:** May 15, 2017, 05:13:56 pm »

@C3PO,
Sorry, wrong Tug,
Thinking of the Southampton

Comes from having a Son who
is a Southampton supporter and
a Son in law supporting Newcastle

Ned

timgarrod · « **Reply #6 on:** May 15, 2017, 05:48:34 pm »

I've got one of the graunper unit. great bit of kit and not just a sound card but can run/program leds/relay to work of it too

rctugman · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2017, 06:03:47 pm »

Good day timgarrod
Many thanks for your reply,much appreciated,I am getting the feeling after some intense searching that the GRAUPNER System is the best out there and gives me something to seriously consider for the tug.
Regards Steve

timgarrod · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2017, 07:20:44 pm »

here the newer version

https://www.beier-electronic.de/modellbau/produkte/usm-rc-2/usm-rc-2.php?sprache=gb

rctugman · « **Reply #9 on:** May 15, 2017, 07:49:17 pm »

Many thanks for the new information,very helpful

best wishes Steve

andyquirot · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2017, 08:02:46 pm »

Hi all I use the Benedini sound system. I use it for my Cars, Tanks, and Boats.
Regards Andy Quirot

Tug-Kenny RIP · « **Reply #11 on:** May 15, 2017, 08:27:01 pm »

Hi Andy,

Welcome to Modelboatmayhem.

We have communicated in the past. I'm the guy that likes your R/C switches. I think they are great. You can advertise them on here if you're still making them as I'm sure they will go down a storm.

All the best

ken Churchill

rctugman · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2017, 08:40:43 pm »

Hello
I was just wondering having read your reply re the Benedini sound system a system I know works well in RC Tanks.
Does it also work well in steam era tugs though and is it fully programmable?
it got me thinking maybe their is another Sound system(integrated for boats) which is less involved and complex as the graupner, I suspect not, but no harm in asking

cheers Steve

timgarrod · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2017, 09:01:28 pm »

I believe Graunper rebranded them for their use and put the price up.

I went though all the effect from the disc when having a play and the stream one sounded brill.

rctugman · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2017, 09:07:31 pm »

Hi Again

Must admit the Graupner system sounds good,very good.
But i sort of get the jitters with all the programming stuff

we cant all be tech brains...how hard or otherwise is it to set up the system say for the New Castle tug.

many thanks

all the best Steve

timgarrod · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2017, 09:51:56 pm »

Hi Steve,

to be honest, it took me a bit to learn how to program it properly. But it soon made sence after watching these video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQwQ2rbUE6E

Its in german but there english subtiles if you press the CC button under the video.

if you use the CD, you can just upload the premade ones,
not sure if you seen all the effect https://www.beier-electronic.de/modellbau/produkte/usm-rc-2/usm-rc-2.php?sprache=gb near the bottom of the page.

rctugman · « **Reply #16 on:** May 16, 2017, 09:09:44 am »

Big Thumbs up!
Many thanks,must admit I soon go in to panic mode with anything to do with technology and especially electronics,so thank you I have already watched number 1 & 2 of the You Tube tutorials and the first one was easy enough number 2 a bit harder,and I have now short-cutted 6 x in total
is it just the first 6 Tutorials that I require?

Once again many thanks

Regards Steve

red181 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 17, 2017, 12:31:27 am »

I use these for planes, and have one about to arrive soon for a boat, it will be a twin merlin sound for my Aerokits fireboat. If you can hang on, Ill post up the sound when its fitted, but might take a few weeks to arrive and get installed

there are some videos on the website

http://www.mrrcsound.com/main

gra2 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 17, 2017, 07:45:13 am »

Have a look at Model Sounds Shockwave 2 sound module.
A Canadian company.

Graham

rctugman · « **Reply #19 on:** May 17, 2017, 08:01:10 am »

Good day red181 & gra2

Firstly a very big thanks for the additional information and http://www.mrrcsound.com/main-Looks very interesting,and look forward to hearing a sample of it later. likewise I will be looking forward to checking out Model Sounds Shockwave 2 sound module.really do appreciate your help,
wonder if anyone as heard all the available programmable sound options? and which one if any, really stands out? Just a thought

all the best Steve

Tug Captain · « **Reply #20 on:** May 22, 2017, 04:54:16 pm »

Hi Steve,

the Beier sound module is great, expensive and requires a fair bit of programming. A far easier set up is the sound module from Harbor Models. it comes ready to install, plays the engine sound and a horn without one sound interrupting the other. On Harbor Models website you can listen to which engine sound suits your model best, order that version and when you receive it just plug it in and that's it.

There is also a sound module avialable from Mtronics. It comes with a speaker. I have installed it in my Portgarth tug but wished I had gone for the Harbor Models unit instead - the large diesel sound is much better (in my opionion).

Whatever you decide to buy - a model with sounds is MUCH more interesting than a model lacking this feature. I think ;-)

Best
Claes

rctugman · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2017, 05:19:19 pm »

Gud Dagen Claes, Fra Norge.
I really thank you for your most helpful reply,i have not really checked out the harbour models or the mtronics sound modules.

I would like synchronized sound connected to the speed of the tug e.t.c. if at all possible
I will go and have a good look at Harbour models page

all the best Steve

rctugman · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2017, 08:45:44 pm »

Hi Claes

I have now mailed Harbour models and received a reply
I have looked at the sound module and I suppose it to be very good.I have a question? how much difference is their between the Beier & THE HARBOUR MODELS Sound systems
by this I mean quality of the recordings and how they sound in say a Tug is it a big difference,if it is a close run thing then I think maybe the Harbour models but if the Beier is as good as folk have being saying then just maybe I will opt for the Beier.

I am still keen to find someone to take on the building/Upgrading on one of the more inexpensive tugs and upgrade with sound,smoke,lighting,electronics e.t.c.
so any suggestions appreciated.I am not quite ready to place the commission? but at least I can put the plans in place.

I did see a very interesting upgrade of a Southampton tugs on facebook/youtube,by a German guy Pierre Dippel.very impressive additions and upgrades,now something like that would be dreamland for me.

all the best Steve

timgarrod · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2017, 10:23:31 pm »

not used the harber sound units but hear are a couple of video of the UMS2. if i hadn't got into arduinos i would still be using them :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffsQ-FvNFDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyhLSk_aa04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DLyDPbBiug

rctugman · « **Reply #24 on:** May 23, 2017, 05:26:14 am »

Good Day Tim
Really good to hear from you again,and many thanks for the links to the You Tube Videos! Wow its difficult not to be impressed by the Beier Unit,I am so very impressed,maybe it is worth the difference in cost to go for the Beier Unit.I was especially impressed by the Happy Hunter Video not just the sound but the other functions to all very exciting for the future.

Regards Steve

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