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Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« on: July 27, 2017, 05:21:45 PM »

So there it is my next building blog!!! Hope you'll like it as the other two blogs.
The hull I build is basically the one from "Princesse Loane" fishtrawler from brittany. I downloaded the plans some time ago and a friend of mine printed it out with his plotter as a gift. But I will at least have three times the sections of the plan like it would be in a real ship. I build it as a wooden hull and not as a steel hull. I'd like to include all steel nails in the planks. The wheelhouse and fishing equipment will be a mix of italian elegance and the rugged equipment for fishing on the atlantic ocean.
 
She will be named "MADY JEANNE" in honor of my mom who died in 2015...



So today I started to made the neccessary changement on the keel. Yes it looks like a castle but actually I've seen it in a video from a werft in brittany.
I will made the keel out of oak. The red lines show the actual position of the sections. Sections will be 12mm thick spaced 12mm apart. This will result in a ultraheavy hull. Maybe I will leave out every other section ... we'll see.



So thats all for the moment. Hope it wont take so much time to finish it like the N. Loradana ....
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2017, 07:18:37 PM »

Looking forward to this Build, will it be a Static or are you going to make it Work?.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2017, 07:59:50 PM »

Len .... it will be made to withstand the roughest seas on the lake. I'd like to have a safe plattform to put the GoPro camera on and attack these big waves!!!!
... and I will add some features ...
Fwd/Rev
L/R Rudder
Lights
Waterpump
Enginesound
Netwinches/Trawldoors (maybe?)
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2017, 09:13:35 PM »

Well, you certainly do pick some interesting boats to model and I'm sure this one will be a winner too. :-)

Good luck with the build Danielle. :-))

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2017, 08:07:15 AM »

Well, you certainly do pick some interesting boats to model and I'm sure this one will be a winner too. :-)

Good luck with the build Danielle. :-))

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Ray.

Second that !  O0 :-))

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2017, 08:09:01 PM »

Thanks a lot Ray and Mike!  :-)) :-)) :-))

I have some 5-6 plans of fishing boats from brittany!
Ordered them online at the following online shop https://librairie-hussard.com/catalog/chalutiers-thoniers-c-142_30054_50033.html?language=en&sort=99&page=2&osCsid=54d3cb43339e8b1f456e54840243720b

Today I just made one part. Its the upper part of the keel/bow.
Its made of oak just as the real thing!
First I had to transfer the drawing to the oak profile. The part is 16mm (2pcs of 8mm) and heavy. I will go to our local woodstore next week and ask if they have planks of oak. I need 6 and 8mm thickness.



I need two parts .... each 8mm thick who will be glued together.



Drilled some holes for the wooden dowels used to make everything more stable.



Then its time to glue the two parts together and to hammer in the dowels. Used clamps to held it together tightly. Then after a set time of 10 mins (I use Ponal Express white glue) I started to sand the part and to correct some slight misalignments.

And the finished part looks very nice!



Here a keel part ready to be connected to another one .... picture taken at the Cantiere Navale Rucher, Manfredonia Italy



It was great fun to make this part and I am looking forward to make other parts as nice as this one.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2017, 08:57:52 PM »

I forgot to mention that the original is 16m long.
I build it in 1/16 scale. 1m long and a little bit over 30cm wide.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2017, 09:16:36 PM »

Some more woodwork done for the keel. Actually this oakwood is very nice to work with!
















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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2017, 10:43:59 PM »

Ohhhhhhhhh Yes  :-)) I love that work you have done on the stem Danielle. The dowels add a nice touch to the piece. Like with Brian B's gorgeous carpentary, your hard work will be hidden, but we will know its there. I hope the aroma of oak will filter from the hull when you remove the deck to access batteries etc so don't use smelly resins  :D
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2017, 07:44:02 AM »

It does indeed look a nice wood to work with nice, sharp edges. The interlocking pieces reminded me of the 20ft launch I built in the front garden years ago, the stem was formed exactly the same way. (I built the launch with the theory that it would be just an overgrown model and therefore quite easy............Wrong !!!)

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2017, 03:14:28 PM »

as a ex trawlerman i love this , building a trawler the way they should be built  :-)) keep up the fantastic work








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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2017, 08:12:39 PM »

Lovely woodwork to get those joints so precise.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2017, 04:14:44 PM »

Thanks a lot to you all!!!!  :-)) :-)) :-))

Today I made the openings for the sections in the keel. First do some cuts into the space that has to be removed, then take a small screwdriver and break the pieces away. Works very well and sometimes you can break all pieces out together.



I did try my proxxon carving tool ... too much hassle ... I used the nice hand powered version ....



The next pic show the keel in 1/16 scale (16m trawler) against the 1/25 scale N. Loredana with 27m.



The bow had to be made too ....



... not too bad ... I used dowels here but screws would have been better!
I also test fitted the prop axle ....



Bow ....



Stern ...

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2017, 05:25:59 PM »

The last pies of the stern was made today ....
.... but first I made one out of photopaper.



Glue and hammer-in the dowels. I also predrilled the hole for the rudder axle.



Finished!



The stern part was glued and fixed with dowels.

Picture of the keel.



I mad a base to have it stand up to work on the sections







How much will the keel weight? 693g

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2017, 09:28:27 PM »

Looking forward to following the build  :-)) the french build some lovely looking trawlers.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2017, 09:46:53 PM »

It is already a very pleasing build Danielle. I sometimes wonder when thinking out ideas and ways to do things if the old ways are better? I have to say that powered saws are a God send (providing they are sharp and maintained) and drill presses are so useful. You are using a hard hardwood and I wonder if smaller power tools have the 'gumption' to tackle Oak.

I see two boxes of tissues. Hayfever? or sawdust allergy??  {:-{
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2017, 04:55:44 AM »

Thanks a lot!!!! :-)) :-)) :-))

Actually the wood isn't too hard. Cutting it with the bandsaw or drilling it isn't too much of a problem .... the wood is oak but I don not know which kind.
Beechwood is much harder.
The tissues are there because its a nice place to have them there ... I have sometimes problems with dust but only if I do not wear a mask.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2017, 05:21:41 AM »

Danielle...this is a very traditional near full size build design :-))......just like the real ones

Yes, Oak timber is a near generic name for so many species here in Australia.......many termed as Tasmanian Oak

However each is unique in straight grain, heavy/dense, great to cut & shape + machine with sharp equipment

Excellent for keel, stem & stern together with fabricated frames......[not so good for steaming & bending of planks]

Looking forward to your continued progress.............. Derek
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2017, 03:00:44 PM »

Thanks a ot for the information about the oak!!!  :-)) :-)) :-))

As I couldn't find oak planks in the right dimensions so I will use the tried and tested 6.5mm birchplay! After painting the inside of the ship light grey nobody will notice the plywood anymore. But for me its much less of a hassle to have the right dimensions on stock in my DIY shop.

The first week of the building is ending and I just designed the first frame. #1 is at the stern and #38 at the bow. Original plans show 11 frames. But the original model has a steel hull and mine a wooden hull.
Some of my plottered plans are not in scale .... should have a word with my friend .... <*<
I also did the template used to cut out the frame without much problems.



The first frame made in card! I will do that with all frames (38 of them) so I can control if everything looks alright before cutting the plywood.





Thats all for this week I'll be back on monday ....  ok2
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2017, 04:35:09 PM »

So it appears that the building board complete with the keel plate ++....has progressed from the Ladies Cave to the Lounge Room  {-)....

If you are comfortable with Birchply ....great....it is a very user friendly building material   :-))

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2017, 07:11:43 PM »

All drawing and cardboard work is done at the dining table .... there is no room left on on my worktable and its too dusty down there ....
I just got an offer from a modelboat captain to draw all frames on the CAD programme DelftShip. He has it already done but with the frames on the wrong position. Now he may recalculate everything and have my 37 frames (one already done) redrawn on this software....  :}
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2017, 06:35:44 PM »

I found out that the actual scale is 1/14.68!!!! My friend did not plotter it correctly .....  {:-{
The plans made in Delftship arrived by email today .... with the neccessary all side views!
Monday I will have them plottered and then I can start with the frames!!!!  ok2
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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2017, 11:40:18 PM »

Darn computers >>:-( they can be so accurate  ..... but after all  :o..it is only a number and all things are still relative to the number in your build

If you decided toward the end of the build to purchase some scale deck accessories.....if they were 1:14 or 1:15.....only you would know the {-) : decimal place difference..... Derek
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2017, 12:07:44 AM »


A beautiful subject in memory of your Mum :-)) :-))

She doesn't look as  big as "Lorenda".

Some good ideas with joint strengthening  O0 O0

Even upside down she is looking good.

Yes there are times when power tools are the wrong tool for the job. Traditional hand tools are more accurate and don't damage you, or the work, such as remove your fingers etc like power tools. >>:-( >>:-( <*< <*< <:( <:(
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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2017, 07:41:08 PM »

There is a big difference in length of 90mm ... 1090mm in 1/14.68 vs. 1000mm in 1/16.
Even the frames had another scale around 1/15.2....
My German friend sent me a new set of plans made in DelftShip. 45 Frames evenly spaced at 24mm over the whole keel. BRILLIANT.

Here the prints .... 4 pcs.



Frame #1 made again ....



Frame made in cardboard to control the shape of the hull.

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