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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #350 on: April 19, 2018, 04:06:50 PM »

As the planks looked rather ugly from the inside, I decided to glue a second layer of planks (leftovers) into the space between the frames. Will give more strength to  the hull and will add a lot of weight to it which is desirable.



Then I used my trusty light grey acrylic paint from the DIY shop as usual. After a light sanding I will add a second layer of paint.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #351 on: April 19, 2018, 07:35:50 PM »

That would keep an exocet out Danielle! Super tough work  :-))
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #352 on: April 24, 2018, 04:00:13 PM »

hehe ... Exocet rocket ... I can remember the Falklands war ....  {:-{
Loosing so many lives .... by a french rocket ....  >:-o

The right side is finished but the unplanked section .... if you knock on the hull to the left it sound klack klack .... to the right it sound more like hammering on door from a castle in the middle agge!!! I like it .... makes the hull superheavy and sturdy ....
I must have used between 750-1000g of glue sofar .... I use a lot of glue ... the more the better ....  ok2



I also went to the model shop to get the new receiver and a servo, other neccessary parts where bought last week or are already at home collecting dust.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #353 on: April 30, 2018, 04:22:46 PM »

The hull has a weight of 8kg at the moment .... I hope to have it under 15kg without the wheelhouse ....  %)



Still glueing the planks between the frames .... only 1/2 a side to do ....
I thought some more color will look nice too ....

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #354 on: April 30, 2018, 06:47:08 PM »

The paint will make the insides tidy.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #355 on: May 15, 2018, 05:51:42 PM »

The paint will make the insides tidy.

Yes this time I hope to get the inside of the hull as tidy and clean as possible. I am used to have all wires bundled and labeled but every time I do the wiring it end up in a terrible mess. The hull is soo bit and space is not a problem.

I plan to build some sort of "dark exhaust fumes machine" to get the right exhaust-color for a diesel engine. I have some idea with the use of ..... DIESEL! Would also have the right smell .... lets see if I can invent it.

Doubleing up from the inside is finished .... now I can add the last planks on the underside of the hull. I also added the grey color to the aeras where the glue is dried 100%



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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #356 on: May 15, 2018, 10:37:39 PM »

That sounds like a generator to create a controlled smoke screen Danielle. It would add weathering to the Mady Jean, but it would be a bit greasy. Still, there's no harm in experimenting  :-))
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #357 on: May 16, 2018, 05:06:03 AM »

1. a metal box with a drip tray.....a shelf for one of those Tea Tree Lights...[40 diameter aluminium dish  x  15 high with a candle wick]
2. a wire rack above the tea tree light to support an unwound [50 diameter] stainless steel scourer pad
3. a 40 diameter computer 12 volt pillow fan mounted in a tube pointing the air onto the scourer
4. a small low pressure 12 volt peristaltic pump ..... do not be tempted  to use a 12 volt windscreen washer pump]
5. a reservoir of sump oil [diesel engine oil is preferable]
6. a metal chimney from the smoke generator to the vessels exhausts

The build of the smoker body itself is not complicated ....brass sheet sides/tops & plates M2 screwed together with 10x10 brass angle iron corners ....

The use of 20 diameter copper bends/unions & tube aids the simplicity of manufacture of the unit....40 to 20 concentric reduce is also handy for the fan tubing

The sizing for the body is say 50 to 70 mm cubic...then with the fan tube bolted & entering on a side & the exhaust exiting from the top etc

Light the tea tree light, with your R/C gear pulse the peristaltic pump until a few spurts of sump oil smoulder on the S/S scourer
It would also be advantageous to use R/C & speed reducer to control the voltage/speed to the fan

Quite a bit of trial & error in the commissioning & setup, however the above does work, each tea tree light is about 10 cents and will last for approx. 15 minutes.......diesel  sump oil is inexpensive  :-X

Ideally, you would need use two [2] functions on your R/C Tx....one variable & one a pulse only

Make the smoke generator totally modular...you will need to lift it out of the vessel before storage/display in your home as the smoke generator will stink  {-)

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #358 on: May 16, 2018, 05:59:51 AM »


DerekBlack smoke or white smoke?


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #359 on: May 16, 2018, 08:33:42 AM »

True....dark grey to black Ian...it is the 'smoke point' of oils, not the 'flash Point' of oils

Google one & you will also find reference to the other

New clear oils produce a whitish/grey smoke point, using diesel sump oil is the trick.....it has so many side additive's...[products of wear metals & oils that have products of contamination of combusted sludge that was not burnt off in exhaust combustion]

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #360 on: May 16, 2018, 11:03:34 AM »

I suppose the next question is, synthetic diesel or mineral diesel? They are both very black when they come out of the sump! I use both, in different vehicles.


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #361 on: May 16, 2018, 12:27:49 PM »

This kind of thing is forbidden in Europe, it is identical in UK ?
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #362 on: May 16, 2018, 12:39:27 PM »

Ian........my smoker build was some 45 years ago........before 3 daughters....before digital cameras......before computer pillow fans ......I had some of those Polaroid Instamatic images in the past

The fan rotor was from a Ronson ladies hair dryer......supported in a brass sheet fabricated housing with 3/16" ZZ ball bearings....the motor was I believe a 540 series with twin O-ring 2:1 reduction pulley drive...Tea Tree lights didn't exist......I improvised with a small wax burner in a steel cupped disk...small peristaltic pumps did not exist,  I used a 12 volt windscreen washer pump......this was most erratic in providing a uniform squirt of gluggy sump oil...

The balance of the build was generally as per previous mention

To answer your question of the Grade or type of diesel oil.......I cannot answer...simply the sump oil I obtained from a local heavy vehicle/truck repair shop....black as...

Good luck

PS... Dear GAZOU......I thought that the UK was still a geographical element in the map of Europe  %) 
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #363 on: May 16, 2018, 03:47:57 PM »


My dear Derek

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Derek I do not know.
When I go to UK we tell me: you the Europeans you do not understand the note of this controller, in Europe you do not make as English, you do not run of the good side . Etc O0 {-)


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #364 on: May 19, 2018, 11:23:37 AM »

Each time I see the brilliant models built by Brian B. ....

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,60780.0.html

.... my brain tells me to scrap my unfinished hull and start again without all the mistakes I made .... done it already once ....  {:-{
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #365 on: May 19, 2018, 02:13:51 PM »


Stop!


Don't worry yourself Danielle. Your work is excellent and worth continuing with. While Brian's work is elegant, yours is still attractive and well made.
It has what is required to form the basis of a good looking and reliable boat. You have learnt loads from your initial construction with Mady Jean and are well into a stunning build. The pictures speak for themselves as do several thousand posts, none of which are less than constructive.
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« Reply #366 on: May 19, 2018, 05:25:10 PM »

I have to agree with Ian - your builds are very impressive and you try so many new concepts.  You have many followers and many thousands of views of your posts.  They are interesting and thought provoking.  Quite frankly you make very nice boats and like everyone else your work makes your skills better as you go along.  Keep building and get this boat done  :-)
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #367 on: May 23, 2018, 04:55:49 PM »

OK my friends .... I will try and finish this fishtrawler .... I will need a lot of ideas to get all things done as I want.
First half of the hull .... planking finished ....



The hull is somewhat too big for my little workspace .... !?


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« Reply #368 on: May 24, 2018, 10:58:56 PM »


Perhaps a period of tidying and sorting will be restorative to your enthusiasm. I tidied my table up this week and though it won't lighten my destroyer, it did make me feel at ease.


The planking is looking really good Danielle.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #369 on: May 25, 2018, 04:12:39 PM »

You're right ... ! I will tidy up my tables as soon as I am finished with the hull ....  ok2
Finished with the work today .... ran out of nails ....  ok2 I tried to see how I can get the nailheads into the wood and how I can simulate the space between the planks ....


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #370 on: May 30, 2018, 04:02:56 PM »

Planking has come to an end!!!!



Doubleing up the planks from the inside is finished as well. I poured in some glue on strategic places and covered it with sawdust ... 1-2 days drying and I can paint everything grey. 



Then I will fit in the motor and the ruddershaft. Maybe I also prepare the rudderservo and the intake for the waterpump(s).
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #371 on: May 31, 2018, 06:20:44 PM »

Motor and RC components in the hull ... there is a lot of space left for other goodies I may add later.






Motor got its sturdy plattform.



I also fitted in and glued the ruddershaft ....





And at the end some more paint into the hull.

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« Reply #372 on: May 31, 2018, 06:25:22 PM »

Wow now that the motor is in you can really see just how big this hull is.  You are making a top job of this boat - lovely work  :-))
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« Reply #373 on: May 31, 2018, 10:28:45 PM »


I thought you may have been a bit too frugal in your motor fit until I scaled the size of the motor by the display shelving hole in the packet


And that motor isn't small  %%


She's coming along nice.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #374 on: June 04, 2018, 07:18:56 PM »

Thanks a lot you two!!!!  :-)) :-))
Today I started with the hull outside .... first hammer in all nailheads, then sand down everthing as much as possible to get a nice even shape. Then I used woodputty fom the local DIY store. I will do this work in sections as I can't hammer in all nailheads in one time ....



This big Bosch vibrasander is the right tool for a lot of jobs in modelling ships. Used it on the Cornelia Marie and the N. Loredana as well. I use sandpaper #80 on this machine. Afterwards I use musclepower and use #120 sandpaper. Always sandpaper from 3M. The green one that will not clog-up so fast (used for paint removal).


Looks alright ... just here and there some more putty needed.


Here you can see 2 hammered in nailheads. They came through the putty when I was sanding the hull there. So in they went again and some putty will hide them again.

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