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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #275 on: February 12, 2018, 09:04:40 PM »

Hm, Definitly time to give your saw a bit of tlc as it will be much costlier to replace than the blades  %%

I think you need to find a scale replica of the shipwright in the documentary weilding an adze! That really impressed me seeing traditional tools as well as modern ones used to build the new bow.

Your progress looks fab as per usual Danielle.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #276 on: February 12, 2018, 10:50:39 PM »

Your question about fish and boxes, have a look at www.macsmouldings.co.uk they do lots of mouldings, might be what you are looking for!!!


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #277 on: February 13, 2018, 04:31:22 PM »

Thanks a lot for the link .... they have fishboxes but in 1/14 scale .... I'll make them by myself ....

The bandsaw is working again. There was not enough tension!!! I must get the tensioner working properly again in the next few days.

.... the end is near!!!!

Frame #C8B was made in the hull itself .... only the lower hull fitted as I wanted .... the rest was made on situ!



At the stern there are frames #C2A-C missing ... here I made the wooden templates. frame #C2C has a funny shape as it has to go under the propshaft ....



End of the day picture .... I started the new hull on January 16th 2018 .... I must say my work improved a lot and I was as quick as the last time but the result is much better!!!!! There are some kinks visible but they will dissapear when I fit the first two rows of planks on where the deck ends ....


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #278 on: February 14, 2018, 12:47:56 PM »

Nearly finished at the bow! 2-3 Frames will be done later ....



At the propshaft the frames are ready to be glued together. One frame can be put on place by going under the propshaft ....

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #279 on: February 15, 2018, 07:16:15 AM »

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #280 on: February 15, 2018, 04:09:32 PM »

Here you can see how I put the frame under the propshaft ....



All frames at the stern are ftted in ....



6 Packs @ 25 pcs/each 15x5mm .... delivered just in time!



All frames done at the bow .....



All stencils ready to be used again for another model .....



End of the day picture .... they will look good on the hull.



These 15x5mm planks are great!!!!!





I had to make e new fastening for the bow .... works as well as the old one ....

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #281 on: February 15, 2018, 08:54:44 PM »

G,day  Danielle  the hull is coming along nicely looks impressive ,what timber are you using for the planking
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #282 on: February 15, 2018, 09:01:27 PM »

Thanks a lot Gary ... :-))

The planks are 15x5mm pinewood. I some tryouts with putting a plank a short time into water to get it to flex around the bow. It works very well. I know I could do it with putting the planks into steam but I have no space to have such an arrangement in my workshop.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #283 on: February 15, 2018, 09:20:33 PM »

Thanks just interested in what timbers other people are using good timber out here is  getting hard to find or if you can find a full size boating timber yard its very expensive.
On another point can you tell me of any model boat clubs  in France & Germany as we will over there in August on holidays also doing a 7 day rail tour of Switzerland
after the rail trip we are hiring a car and touring around for 18 days would be interested in your comments as to any places worth visiting
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #284 on: February 16, 2018, 05:03:41 AM »

Gary, I do not know any model boat clubs in Germany or France. There are a few in Switzerland and some model boat shows. What time of the year will you visit Switzerland? Better we discuss that in another topic or by private message ....
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #285 on: February 16, 2018, 09:16:42 AM »

Here's a couple German clubs....

https://www.smc-hamburg.de/

https://www.modelltechnik-hamburg.de/

If you use the links to other clubs on those pages, you will find plenty more.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #286 on: February 16, 2018, 10:47:44 AM »

Today I made this little tool to mark things on the hull. Its only to mark things and not to check if things are square and level .... base is from my wooden figurine and the rest out of my storage ....



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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #287 on: February 16, 2018, 01:00:18 PM »

Clever tool, you'll be able to mark waterlines and things when you are ready Danielle.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #288 on: February 17, 2018, 02:46:43 PM »

You're right ... its a clever helping tool for the waterline (fixture for a pen will be made later). I have different selfmade helping gadgets at hand ....

Today with the help of two leftover ABS profiles I marked the upper end of the hull where the deck will be. Looks alright to me (Anita my wife said its OK too) next week I have to copy the markings to the other side .... and the I can start sanding the frames to the right shape.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #289 on: February 19, 2018, 04:26:59 PM »

First planks on the hull .... not the 15x5mm but 13x5mm I cut myself. Impossible to bend the 15x5mm planks to the shape of the deck seen from the side. The 13mm one went quite good to bend.
I used a lot of clamps. Didn't trust the glue plus nail and no clamps method ....





The 10x3mm stringers will be removed after planking ....
I checked and rechecked if everything is level and square .... I hope I got it right.



2nd plank on the other side where fixed with my glue&nail method. It worked fine if you take care to get the nails in before the plank thinks it can move to another positon ....



End of the day picture ....
I will have  to sand a lot frames to the exact shape before I can think about planking the bow. I will have to put the planks into water form some minutes or I can't bend them properly.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #290 on: February 19, 2018, 07:45:40 PM »

Rather that soaking them in water, what about steaming them???  If you have a wallpaper steamer, or can borrow one, connect the outlet to a small diameter tube slightly longer than the planks, steam for 10 mins then try to bend the plank to the bows, if it is still difficult, steam again but for longer.


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #291 on: February 19, 2018, 08:48:12 PM »


I think Danielle has a problem with space Jarvo  {:-{ From what I recall reading some while back anyway.


The frames are looking great Danielle! Very graceful with their returns at the keel.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #292 on: February 20, 2018, 03:19:28 PM »

Thanks  a lot my friends for your help. No I do not have space for another "machine". Yes I could bend the plank with ease with my "put-that-plank-into-water" method. More of it later ....

OK lets start with one plank at the bow. Just to check out things, shapes and how I can do that without too much hassle.
First I had to make a groove into the oakwood to accomodate the plank.



Than as seen on a 1/1 scale wooden hull I needed this triangular profile. Gives the plank a little bit more contact with the ship.



Get the plank (right length and shape) into the water and directly out of it again. Leave it into the water just a few seconds. Take a towel and dry all water on the outside. I think if you need to bend it to say 90 you can let it soak for a longer time.
It went without problems and I am looking forward to get all planks on the hull sasp!



Take all your clamps and get the plank on the ship.



Skipper is very happy with the progress of the last few days!!

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #293 on: February 20, 2018, 07:47:08 PM »

So he should be  O0 Is the water cold or heated? I admit I didn't see any steam so assume the latter.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #294 on: February 21, 2018, 04:17:46 AM »

So he should be  O0 Is the water cold or heated? I admit I didn't see any steam so assume the latter.

Only cold water in my workspace ... the tube is a 110mmm sewer tube.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #295 on: February 21, 2018, 04:23:38 PM »

Nice to have planks that are keeping the shape ....



3 planks on each side ...



Die 1st plank on the hull second one is drying ....



Both sides are simetrical built .....





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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #296 on: February 22, 2018, 03:19:03 PM »

Today I made the wooden helper I saw in the "Bow Exchange Video".  Its very good and performs as it should.



Now I have 3 planks on the hull on each side. I will add another plank on top of the other two. A) they serve as protection and will hold the rubber profiles that act as bumper. It also will mask some imperfections .... the shape of the hull ist not 100% as I wanted and I can mask the mistakes in a way nobody will notice .....

I gave up using the 15x5mm profiles .... impossible to bend them! So I cut some of them down to 13x5mm profiles .... they are just what I was looking for.

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« Reply #297 on: February 22, 2018, 10:29:25 PM »

Gorgeous  :-)
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #298 on: February 23, 2018, 04:45:46 PM »

Thanks a lot!  :-))

Today I did shorten all frames to a few mm above the first plank. Cutting was done with my trusty Proxxon jigsaw.



First side is done ..... sanding was done with my Proxxon beltsander. I did have to let it cool down from time to time as it was running very hot. Later I will sand it down to the right height.



The other side is done as well ....



Now I can see the the shape much better .....



Next week I will check the measurements. Ar the moment I could do some neccessary correction if there would be mistakes.



This is the result if you use your vacuum cleaner way over the limit of the vacuum cleaner bag .... I could take it only with a lot of clever engineering .....

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #299 on: February 26, 2018, 04:00:44 PM »

First I did saw the 15mm planks back to 13mm ones .... I also cut some 1000mm long planks for the sides.



The long planks are glued on 2 each side .... the longer the better ....



... and 1 planks each side of the bow.





My wife suggested to build some sort of measurement control "thing". I did that in a few minutes .... works well for me. I made it to control the symetry of the hull.



2nd plank was also glued on both sides.



The hull starts to get very sturdy. It has only 2-3 planks per side but at the end it will survive anything that can happen on the model-boat lake.....
Mal sehen was ich morgen so auf die Reihe kriege.
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