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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #400 on: July 12, 2018, 05:59:32 AM »

Dont think water is dense enough, 5L is 5 kg. Far to bulky. what about lead shot in bags, moulded into place with a mix of epoxy. They would fit into specific places in the hull and be removable. Not as easy as pumping water from the lake, but more effective.


I agree. I got my lead shot from this Swiss store: http://www.plomben.ch/bleiteile.htm
You will need less than 1/10th the volume if you're gonna use lead instead of water.
Or, even better, use gold bullions instead (as I always suggest) and you'll need only about 1/20th the volume of water  ok2
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #401 on: July 12, 2018, 06:05:14 PM »


I agree. I got my lead shot from this Swiss store: http://www.plomben.ch/bleiteile.htm
You will need less than 1/10th the volume if you're gonna use lead instead of water.
Or, even better, use gold bullions instead (as I always suggest) and you'll need only about 1/20th the volume of water  ok2
Thank you all for all the informations .... I will order my lead bullions (cheaper than lead shots) from the swiss online store! Thanks a lot to Tafelspitz for this very useful link.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #402 on: July 12, 2018, 09:35:51 PM »

The only problem with bullions is fitting them between the hull ribs, unless you made boxes in the hull to hold them


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #403 on: July 12, 2018, 10:02:26 PM »

Put a mini paddling pool below your balcony heat the lead up on said balcony and then pour it into the pool from a great height thus creating your own shot! Fill the pool with water obviously  :embarrassed:
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #404 on: July 13, 2018, 05:50:13 AM »

The only problem with bullions is fitting them between the hull ribs, unless you made boxes in the hull to hold them
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I will make boxes to hold the bullions in place ... "if" I build another big model after the M-J I can reuse them. Lead shot in bags do not stay in place as well in place in the hull as bullions in boxes.
My wife is asking how we will move the finished model around. Getting it into the VW T6 van and into water has to be planned well.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #405 on: July 13, 2018, 08:19:03 AM »

Moving and handeling a big boat needs thought. I use a folding garden truck, very easy to move and loads of space for the gear that goes with the model. Ballast, Batteries etc.


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #406 on: July 13, 2018, 09:23:29 AM »

My wife is asking how we will move the finished model around. Getting it into the VW T6 van and into water has to be planned well.


I'd suggest one of these (that would also be an amazing building project): https://youtu.be/tvqAqhZ-ijg


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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #407 on: July 13, 2018, 06:27:01 PM »

You could make a Free Flooding compartment low in the hull to let the water in and save on Ballast.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #408 on: July 13, 2018, 07:02:18 PM »

You could make a Free Flooding compartment low in the hull to let the water in and save on Ballast.
Len.
I was thinking about it as I saw such a compartment in a hull of a fishtrawler in Britanny ... bit I think it will create problem if its not 150% watertight.  %)
Very nice video of the big crane .... but a model for my boat would need another parking lot and a trailer to get it to the model show ....  ok2
I forgot to write that the hull is very stable in the water. It floats nicely and stable with or without ballast.

Yesterday I made a template for the deck ....




... and today of the rest .... as you can see I wasn't happy with the shape of the bow .... so I will change it like you say in the pictures.










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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #409 on: July 13, 2018, 07:06:25 PM »

And one picture standing beside the dinner table .... it is a MASSIVE hull ....  O0 O0
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #410 on: July 15, 2018, 03:10:43 PM »

I was not happy with y wooden figurine as it was too big! Its height is 210mm instead of 175-180mm (=1.75-1.80m height in 1:1 scale).The one I use now was printed out from the internet and its height is 180mm. Loos much better for me ....




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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #411 on: July 15, 2018, 09:47:54 PM »

Really coming along well Danielle, although you are working on a Brittany style boat, we still have a lot of fishing boats here in Dieppe (Normandy) and quite a few on the slips at any one time, if you would like me to take photos of any part of the fishing fleet both above and below the water, or any any other details I can help you with please let me know I will be glad to help.
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #412 on: July 16, 2018, 04:25:25 AM »

Really coming along well Danielle, although you are working on a Brittany style boat, we still have a lot of fishing boats here in Dieppe (Normandy) and quite a few on the slips at any one time, if you would like me to take photos of any part of the fishing fleet both above and below the water, or any any other details I can help you with please let me know I will be glad to help.
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Thanks a lot for your offer. I took a lot of pictures but I am sure I will need some pictures in future because there is always one or the missing for detailing the model!
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #413 on: July 16, 2018, 02:54:18 PM »


One of the rules of model making is that after you have completed a project, more reference turns up often of that which you wanted to make but could not see  %)



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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #414 on: July 16, 2018, 05:41:05 PM »

One of the rules of model making is that after you have completed a project, more reference turns up often of that which you wanted to make but could not see  %)
Exactly!!!! Happened with the FV Cornelia Marie ... one week after its first outing Discovery Channel published 360 views of all parts of the boat. Wheelhouse, deck, forcastle, pantry, engine room ... you name they have a 360 view .... I was really not shure if I should rebuild some part of the CM. In the end I left her as she was ....
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« Reply #415 on: July 16, 2018, 11:12:57 PM »

It is important to understand that the detail of a model can be a snapshot frozen in time......all of the detail is as was during that moment O0

Many warship models are listed by name & date ......

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« Reply #416 on: July 24, 2018, 07:58:29 PM »

It is important to understand that the detail of a model can be a snapshot frozen in time......all of the detail is as was during that moment O0
Many warship models are listed by name & date ......
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You're right Derek!!!!  ok2 :-))
I am sorry I do not have much time and energy for my model at the moment. The new job is really interesting and I love it! But in the evening I am just like a bag of patatoes ....

Today I started to build the superstructure... just in card to see if the dimensons are alright.



The outer walls are done ....



... and the front part is done ... with the help of skipper Jean-Jacques (180cm in real life) you can very well see the dimensions of the model. Skipper is happy with today work.

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #417 on: July 29, 2018, 05:40:34 PM »

Mor things done with my big stock of cardboard .... upper deck, wheelhouse .... looks ok!



Some corrections will be made but at the moment I am happy with the result.



... and the frontal view of the boat.



I did a quick model of the net winch ... not exactly the right size but a good beginning from which I can develop the real model one.






Jean-Jacques is happy with today results ....
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #418 on: July 31, 2018, 08:17:40 PM »

He looks very satisfied indeed. I saw these images on FB the other day and wondered whether you had started another build before deciding the structure looked very card like and realised it was Mady Jeanne!
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« Reply #419 on: July 31, 2018, 11:14:22 PM »

Morning Danielle......I cannot see a reference for the axis ..or height if the stern winch drums......however they appear high?  %)

...& they don't appear on the earlier plans.....have I missed a latter image?......... Derek

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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #420 on: August 01, 2018, 03:35:18 AM »

I used the plan I had just for the hull. Everything above deck will be freelance of taken from other boats ....
If you add the netwinches on the original plan the model would look like this .... I dont like it ... 15.6m trawler



This is what I wanted to have as superstructure ..... its OK .... 14.4m trawler


I like this one .... mix between closed and open deck .... 14.5m trawler


Another one .... 11.9m ....


As you can see the netdrums end normally ar shoulder height .... I have some other ideas about the superstructure and I may build it in cardboard in the next days. Closed decks are very difficult to build because of the big opening to the inards of the ship.
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« Reply #421 on: August 01, 2018, 04:13:22 AM »

Goodness....you are clearly correct by example :-))......

I have not seen trawlers with net drums so high here in Wollongong....

By the time the trawlers return to harbour, all of the catch has loaded into 100's of those BLUE plastic boxes........

I would be interested to watch a video......on how they unload the catch from the nets into the boxes.....

[one evening just on dusk....we watched the trawler shown in my image below......unload we estimated 150 of those BLUE plastic boxes each full of cooked sea prawns ]

So 150 boxes x 20kg each x $25.00/kg of prawns sell price  = $75,000.00

We love our sea prawns   :P

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« Reply #422 on: August 01, 2018, 06:52:00 AM »

thats a lot of $$$$!!!!!
Here a video where you can see the unloading of the trawlers. They go out fishing just for in daytime 4:00-16:00

https://youtu.be/qSBVDnhgXlg
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #423 on: August 04, 2018, 04:59:42 PM »

I wasn't too happy with the cardboard wheelhouse ..... too much hassle with the access into the hull. So I made a new one ....







.... but this version was not exactly was I wanted .... with the help of my cutter I made some adjustments and now it looks better for me.








Now I can plan the deck openings and start with the deck....
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Re: Building the FV "Mady Jeanne"
« Reply #424 on: August 04, 2018, 05:33:44 PM »

The mock up is looking good Danielle. I reckon you ought to get it built soon as Jean-Jacques wants access to his bridge. He's not a happy chappy  :}
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