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source of thin wood
« on: September 20, 2017, 08:19:32 PM »

Camembert cheese is sold in little boxes with (usually) card tops and bottoms, and wooden sides. If you remove the staples holding the card tops and bottoms on, you end up with two wooden hoops. If you soak these in hot water and separate the glued edges with a blunt knife, you end up with wooden planks about 15 to 20 mm wide, 300mm long and about 0.75mm thick. This is ideal for small clinker boats. Work on the Camemboat has started!
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Re: source of thin wood
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2017, 10:56:50 PM »

I go to my local grocers and have his old wood boxes for fruit
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2017, 11:33:56 PM »

Hi, if you are going to put work into building something you expect to last why are you expecting cheap wood boxes to last as well?  It is like the coffee stirer collectors, it is cheap throw away wood.  I had a source and collected about 100 coffee stirers.  About 20 of them were half decent.
Making something out of low quality materials makes a low quality model, It will warp!
rant over sorry I will go to bed now, probably over tired.
Roy
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2017, 02:59:27 AM »

I must agree with Roy O0......using cheap wood may well be the most expensive decision  >>:-( made in a model build... Derek

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Re: source of thin wood
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2017, 03:35:16 AM »

cant be that bad...i have one boat made out of said wood that is 10 years old and is still good. look at many kits that have wood in them...is the wood really that good???
When i used to do rc aircraft i would scrap the accesory pack, and inspect the wood before use, normally scrapping 50% that I deemed not fit for purpose. Same with boats, I go through scrap bins and select what i need, get home then relook at what is really good.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2017, 06:24:55 AM »

Hi Klunk, I agree, I have a Dumas kit of American Beauty, the fibre glass hull is nice but the wood is appalling. 
I see now that they laser cut the wood parts so they are forced to use better quality ply. I had to ask for some extra cast fittings as well as some of them were just blobs of metal.

In contrast I was given a Polish kit some years ago and the wood is beautifully cut, no burnt edges, unfortunately the instructions must have gone through 3 other language translations before getting to English as they are biblcal (beyond understanding).

I have made the small landing platforms for my Ogdensburg from coffee stirers and they look OK.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2017, 12:41:54 PM »

I get old wooden venetian blinds at boot fairs, lots of nice linden wood in about 2mm thickness
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2017, 12:59:22 PM »

Hi Grendel, I use venetian blind wood as well, lovely stuff, but this is a long way from the disposable wood mentioned earlier.
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Re: source of thin wood
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2017, 03:23:28 PM »

Coffee stirrers - good for mixing paint and two part epoxy.  :-))
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2017, 03:45:25 PM »

I don't expect the camemboat to last 1000 years, but I do expect to have some fun building it. Its the building I enjoy - once they work I lose interest! I did think of laminating coffee stirrers to make the spars, but I thought that would be cheating.
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Re: source of thin wood
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2017, 03:48:43 PM »

Vic Smeed's Krispie 36R model springs to mind. Constructed out of cereal packets.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2017, 03:51:41 PM »

But cereal packets and the like are good quality card.  I keep them all folded flat for 'later'.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2017, 05:02:20 PM »

Hi Grendel, I use venetian blind wood as well, lovely stuff, but this is a long way from the disposable wood mentioned earlier.
regards Roy
Its cheap enough when you buy the blinds at a boot fair - even if you have to pay 4 for them (generally I try and get them for 1 each though)
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Re: source of thin wood
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2017, 03:12:49 PM »

@tobyker, how is Camembert coming along? Any progress? It sounds like an interesting project.
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Re: source of thin wood
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2017, 11:56:54 PM »

Camemboat all done except rudder, install r/c and final weight on keel depending on r/c weight. It was all going fine until I finally worked out how to place the rudder servo on the twice size Ezebilt Terrier torpedo boat. This had put the MTB on ice for awhile but now going ahead. When the next problem strikes I'll be back on the cheese.
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Re: source of thin wood
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2017, 02:40:24 AM »

Any chance of a picture of progress? :}
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2018, 06:24:13 PM »

Pictures at last of Camemboat so far. Still to fix steering oar, attach tiller and keel weight, and work out whether I can get R/C rudder. Every part except rigging, sail and parrels is sourced from Camembert boxes. I suppose if I'd stuck to one brand of Camembert I could have asked for sponsorship
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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2018, 03:18:43 PM »

Don't forget the bamboo blinds. Although the "grain" of the strips is very out of scale it does look OK for older vessels wheelhouses or open  bridges. It comes in "natural",  too light for us but some of the stained colours are suitable. Sizes are 7mm wide but Ive seen wider 10 and 13mm. 
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2018, 02:26:12 AM »

I've been thinking about how you could control the rudder.
A micro server may just be strong enough to turn a balanced rudder, half the area in front of the rudder's pin, half behind.
The servo could go under the superstructure, if a hole is cut in the rear of it. The push rods used for the rudder, but this would need to be above deck.
I have sailed a sail boat with only rudder control. The sails were set at about 45 degrees. As long as she caught the wind she would go forward.
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