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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2018, 12:20:36 AM »

Already had plastic figurines painted for the diorama (1/72 scale).
You may have noticed two of them in above post (Upstream Captain and Downstream Captain).





One of the things I am adding to the boat is navigational lights. There will be two sets, for up and down stream. Leads were attached to 3 mm LEDs.
I only shielded one LED lead to stop shorting. The black mark on grey wire is to let me know which one is LED Cathode terminal.


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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2018, 12:57:59 AM »

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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2018, 08:34:48 AM »

Used a coffee tin lid to make four navigation light hoods on top of cabins.
I painted the inside silver, but I think it would have been better to paint a clear gloss instead.


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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2018, 11:13:10 AM »

I have seen the insides painted in their respective colors (port red, starboard green) to help visibility over distance.
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2018, 11:22:25 AM »

I have seen the insides painted in their respective colors (port red, starboard green) to help visibility over distance.
Thank you for that interesting bit of information. I'll remember that for my next boat. Yes, I said next boat...I'm getting interested in building boats at the moment.


I was tempted to repaint them as you suggested, then I held back. It would become confusing for the observer to see a boat with both red and green hoods on the same side. Since the boat does not turn around, the up stream cabin gets replaced with the downstream cabin. So port side gets swapped over. So L'll keep it silver colour (neutral so to speak). The LEDs I am using are clear until energized and then their colour is revealed.
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2018, 11:30:38 AM »

Are you using clear or frosted LEDs. Frosted diffuse the light better, as most light will shine upwards. I have frosted LEDs manually with abrasive paper to good effect. If you have a spare LED, you could try frosting one to see if you like the effect.
I have also seen an LED that has been capped (so to speak). The top was sanded off square to the sides, then the sanded area painted white to reflect internally, and finally the area was painted black to stop light leaking out and spoiling the effect.
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2018, 11:34:37 AM »

You can get dual colour LED's.  ie:  light red or green.  Used a lot in applications like indicators for battery chargers.  That way your navigation lights could just switch over as your boat starts to make it's return trip on the diorama.
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2018, 12:19:24 PM »

You can get dual colour LED's.  ie:  light red or green.  Used a lot in applications like indicators for battery chargers.  That way your navigation lights could just switch over as your boat starts to make it's return trip on the diorama.
Thanks Bob. That was my original idea, and even ordered them in. But then I realized that I had two wheelhouse cabins with a dropped section in between them. To use bi-coloured LEDs would require them to be in the centre of the boat, in the dropped section. Also, the light hoods back plate would need to be taken away. As a result  they will be seen equally as bright either up or down stream, which is an added confusion. The red and green lights are supposed to be forward in location as well as in beam direction. So I opted to use two sets of nav lights.



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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2018, 09:38:26 AM »

The kit had cut-outs for a winch without drum or drive. So I made up my own. I used string for rope (had no chain).
Glued a sitting man on a piece of wood, as if on a box.





Unraveled some string to make the deck-hand look like he is splicing the rope.
Used coloured ink to darken doors and cabin roofs. Then a coat of clear satin enamel.
Snipped some copper wire and clued to doors for hinges.
Painted some larger rings to look like tyres for hull bumpers. And painted some other bits.





Early last December, when I ordered the kits, I weighted some string over my spare door in the hope of pre-stretching it.
Hope it will work. I don't want the rigging to sag after awhile.






Last night I added the gunwale. Today added some wood putty here and there, then gave the whole hull a better sanding down.
Somehow I was going to attach the rigging to the bow/stern ends of boat, and have the rigging come down from the mast.
So I used a paper clip to make a few eyelets. Drilled and super-glued them into place.




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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2018, 11:05:13 AM »

Hi Tinny, do you run your rigging cord through a piece of beeswax to get rid of stray hairs?
regards Roy
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2018, 11:16:43 AM »

Hi Tinny, do you run your rigging cord through a piece of beeswax to get rid of stray hairs?
regards Roy
No, I am new to boat building. This is my first boat. But if that is what one does then I will do so too. Thanks for tip.
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2018, 03:36:55 AM »

Mast light.



Hand railing on cabin roof.
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2018, 05:28:35 AM »

You mentioned sagging rigging. One way round this problem is to use wire instead of string.
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2018, 02:21:11 PM »

....or perhaps shirring elastic O0

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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2018, 02:53:48 PM »

I like the detailing Tinny. I keep forgetting how versatile paper clips are and the differant wire sizes you can get them in. The idea of painting the leads to the mast LED is great, it makes them look like conduits!
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2018, 11:03:42 PM »

Thanks tigertiger, Ray, and ballastanksian for great ideas and compliments.
If the rigging does stretch, I will surely try your suggestions. I also plan to us a slip knot at one end of the string. Hoping beeswax (as suggested earlier) will keep the humidity out.
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2018, 11:11:46 PM »

Added LEDs to the cabin roofs, painted the railings and added life preservers.


The wood for forward cabin wall was too thin to keep out the LED cabin lighting. I added a blackened card, with aluminium foil on the other side, to block and spread the light within the cab.


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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2018, 11:15:38 PM »

Hoping beeswax (as suggested earlier) will keep the humidity out.

You can also use saddle soap for this - also, if the string is multi-stranded, pull it through the wax slowly, twisting the string as you go. :-))

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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2018, 02:31:26 AM »

You can also use saddle soap for this - also, if the string is multi-stranded, pull it through the wax slowly, twisting the string as you go. :-))

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Thanks Ray for the tip.
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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2018, 02:41:38 AM »

Added some sort of signal light (came with kit), and the nav light hoods.
Made stern light hoods and a radar unit.


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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2018, 04:16:39 AM »

All progressing well Peter  :-))...some of the older Manley Ferries had navigation light switching problems when running ahead/astern ...and usually on a rain swept rainy evening  >>:-(

So I am sure you will be able to interlock the appropriate navigation lighting for direction of run, however the Navigation lighting rules for beam & ahead are rather strict.......

The example below will highlight the needs.............

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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2018, 05:15:43 AM »

Thank you Derek. They are strict these days. I am hoping that the visitors will be too busy with playing bridge to notice the difference in angle. From what I gather, most visitors won't know and won't care. It is only guys like us who will notice it. So I hope you won't mind if I do not change the hoods.  ok2
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« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2018, 10:32:13 AM »

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Re: Symmetrical Boat
« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2018, 12:23:58 PM »

The name of the boat will be "BINGAL", the original town name for Wardell, the diorama location.
It rhymes a little bit with 'bingle' (collision). The boat, in a way , is a collision of two bows. Also to add a bit of drama, a deck hand has a bingle with the loop of rope on the deck.


I used one plastic figure and amputated two arms and a leg. Re-attached them differently to look as if falling.


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