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LesRo Stiletto
« on: February 04, 2022, 08:16:23 pm »

As a confirmed LesRo Rapier fan, I have been hoping to find a pocked sized version that could live more easily in the car so that if we should happen to stumble across a suitable stretch of water when out for a drive in the car with my wife ... I would just happen to have a classic model powerboat in the boot that I could take out and use - just to break the journey up a little  %) 


I am sure this thoughtful act would be greatly appreciated !

I have been hoping (without success) to find a Stiletto to restore for some months now, but nothing has come my way.

However, there could well be some light at the end of this tunnel as my friend Will has found (and bought) a Stiletto kit on eBay ...(why is it that everybody else spots these things and I seldom do?)........ but it was not exactly what he expected.

It turns out that his "kit" had already been built once and then taken apart and put back in the box!

Some of the parts have "lost their newness" and the keel has been snapped and part of it is missing.

When the Arrow and Stiletto were both current LesRo kits, my guess is that they both shared the same hulls - just like their bigger brothers Rapier and Javelin did?

Now as it happens, when I first returned to this hobby after so many years of absence, I treated myself to a new Arrow kit as I thought it would be a nice easy way to get myself reacclimatised - but that was just before "lock-down" and the discovery of a discarded Rapier that needed some TLC......so the Arrow kit never got started as other restorations followed that appealed to me more that starting to assemble this new kit!

Although my new Arrow kit is of the current re-engineered type (and is not an original LesRo kit) I am hoping that the shape has not strayed too far away from the original as Will is sending me his Stiletto "kit" and I am hoping to be able to make a new keel for him (using the Arrow keel for shape reference) - and replace any other parts that may be missing or broken with parts cut from nice new wood.

The idea is that I also make a copy of these parts for myself so that we will both be able to build a Stiletto each.

What could go wrong?........... :embarrassed:
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2022, 08:28:39 pm »

I have a part-built modern (SLEC) Arrow as I always fancied the Lesro kit. Going together fairly easily, keep getting held up by waiting for hardware after changing my mind. Should a fun boat which will be easy to slip into a corner of the car when we go out.
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2022, 12:20:43 pm »

Our local postman has just delivered a long narrow parcel - and as I am not expecting anything else of that size or shape - I think Wills Stiletto "kit" of parts has just arrived!


Unfortunately neither of us has a Stiletto plan (or building instructions) so if anyone has a copy that they could bare to part with I would be very happy to pay a fair price for it as it would be a helpful reference that will result in two Stiletto power boats being added to the classic power boats working register  :-))
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2022, 02:43:10 pm »

Tempting fate?

Well sometimes even the best laid plans can go wrong, and this project has got off to a very "challenging" start.

When I asked "what could go wrong?........ :embarrassed: " in my opening paragraph,   I never actually thought that anything would go wrong - but the box of wooden parts that I have just opened has cabin sides for a Sea Commander inside it (!) and not for a Stiletto. <:(

I am not too sure about some of the other parts either - but if anyone has a Stiletto plan to sell or copy I am sure it would provide all the help we need as I can cut the cabin sides and the keel from the kit plans and it would also help me to identify the other "assorted parts" to see what fits and what needs a template to be made.

Nothing is impossible - but some projects may take a little longer than the original plans would suggest that they should  :-))

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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2022, 06:29:26 pm »

So, as Bob said, we thought that with what I had bought in a Lesro Stiletto box would indeed help with some templates, sides, bulkheads, cabin roof, wheelhouse roof, fore deck to start with.
I had previously sent Bob some pictures of what I had received, but neither of us noticed that the cabin sides were far too rounded/not angular enough to be a Stiletto. I have a built Sea Commander in the same room as the 3 Lesro kits I bought, yet did I clock the similarity of the cabin sides to the Sea Commander, nope!!  %)


Anyway, as Bob says, the search is now on, for either a set of Stiletto plans, a rough or damaged Stiletto or even an inbuilt one.
So if anyone has any suggestions or leads that could help us out, please get in touch.


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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2022, 07:11:32 pm »

Stiletto Parts (supposedly)
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2022, 07:12:18 pm »

Stiletto parts #2
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2022, 07:14:18 pm »

Sorry, wrong picture and don't know how to delete posts.


Don't worry Will,


Most of us have never seen any of the genuine LesRo kit boxes for the Stiletto, Javelin and Rapier - and you have just shown us all three  :-))
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2022, 07:17:10 pm »

Stiletto Parts (supposedly)


Not a problem - I am going to build a Sea Commander instead  {-)


..........but I am sure a plan for the Stiletto will turn up sometime, and when it does we can get going again and add two more of these elusive little powerboats to the active register.  :-))
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2022, 07:27:40 pm »


Not a problem - I am going to build a Sea Commander instead  {-)


..........but I am sure a plan for the Stiletto will turn up sometime, and when it does we can get going again and add two more of these elusive little powerboats to the active register.  :-))


Indeed Bob. I will continue searching for a Stiletto plan. Someone must have one that they could get copied for us if they don't want to part with it. I am happy to pay any printing costs (within reason).


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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2022, 01:49:35 pm »

I shall keep my eyes open for some plans etc. I quite like the idea of a mini Rapier. As you will l know I am not very prolific at boat building after a brief flurry in lockdown I don’t have the time right now. All the best in your quest!


Ps at least you have some original boxes!
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2022, 04:00:46 pm »

I shall keep my eyes open for some plans etc. I quite like the idea of a mini Rapier. As you will l know I am not very prolific at boat building after a brief flurry in lockdown I don’t have the time right now. All the best in your quest!


Ps at least you have some original boxes!


Thanks Stuw,

Nice to hear from you - its Will that has that lovely collection of original boxes - sadly I don't have any!

If we can find some plans and parts templates we would be more than happy to share them with you after we have checked to make sure everything fits together OK.

I will be cutting two sets of parts for Will and myself, so cutting another set for you would not be a problem - or we could pass the templates on to you as you may prefer to whittle your own set   {-)

If I could get the cabin side parts I may be able to work the rest out for myself with the Arrow kit parts that I already have?

Stay safe,

Bob.
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2022, 04:05:10 pm »

Option B.


If we can find a Stiletto for sale - I am sure we could "reverse engineer" it .

Any condition from a wreck to a pristine example would be considered.  O0
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2022, 08:09:12 pm »

I shall keep my eyes open for some plans etc. I quite like the idea of a mini Rapier. As you will l know I am not very prolific at boat building after a brief flurry in lockdown I don’t have the time right now. All the best in your quest!


Ps at least you have some original boxes!


Thank you Stuw, much appreciated.


Someone out there must have a set that they'd either let go, or would be prepared to have copied or scanned to PDF if they don't want to let go of the originals.


Yes, to have the boxes is quite cool, even if the stiletto box has seen better days.


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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2022, 01:41:59 pm »

Ok guys I’ve done some internet trawling and apart from finding your past requests for plans etc (sadly unanswered) I have found this YouTube clip of a build from kit which may provide some clues if you can extract from stills the scale of parts?


My quest isn’t over yet but thought I would share in case.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MXMcQES-17c


Also some photos on this mayhem thread amongst others:


https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=59914.0


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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2022, 05:18:16 pm »

Thanks Stuw - I will take a good look at that info. :-))


I think Will has found a plan - but I am still hoping to avoid a lot of measuring by finding some templates to cut the bulkhead from.  %)
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2022, 03:24:40 pm »

The best laid plans......with tasteful slippers to boot!
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2022, 06:58:31 am »

Hi Tony


Any change of a PDF copy of the plan in the future, please???


It's one on my bucket list !!!


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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2022, 10:33:30 am »

Hi Harry and others. Please note that I'm only posting the pics for Bob so I'm no authority on nuthin'!
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2022, 11:02:49 am »

Hi Harry and others. Please note that I'm only posting the pics for Bob so I'm no authority on nuthin'!


.......and very good at it you are too !  :-))
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2022, 11:43:46 am »

The best laid plans......with tasteful slippers to boot!

Could you send me the original photo please Tony, see if I can do something with it .... [email protected]
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2022, 11:49:22 am »

The best laid plans......with tasteful slippers to boot!


Ha - not my plans (or my slippers), but one that Will has tracked down.......but I think he may have found an even better copy now?

I had better get on with assembling those Stiletto/Sea Commander parts   {-)  as it looks like we are getting closer to cutting the parts for a couple of "real" Stiletto's for myself and Will.

If we should happen to stumble across some bulkhead templates we could be in production even sooner :-))
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2022, 12:41:13 pm »

Problem with photos Martin is that when trying to convert to jpegs is keystone effect and also corners are bleached out. Scanning is the answer.


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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2022, 01:00:48 pm »

Problem with photos Martin is that when trying to convert to jpegs is keystone effect and also corners are bleached out. Scanning is the answer.
  Regards   Ian.

Agreed / True .... but if we can establish a datum or two and you can resize proportionally .....   :-)
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Re: LesRo Stiletto
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2022, 08:49:52 pm »

As Bob rightly says, I have managed to get hold of a clearer copy of a Stiletto plan.


My plan is to get it both copied and scanned to a PDF file, then I can get a copy of the plan to Bob so that he can start sussing things out, that's beyond my capabilities at present.
The issue that I'm currently having is my working day and commute don't allow me to get to a printers in the week. I will try on the next weekend that i'm off.
I will get this sorted asap though.


It would still be good if we could get hold of some templates though, it would make making a complete parts count much quicker and easier.


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