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Emma Maersk
« on: December 31, 2007, 08:15:08 AM »

I have just been sent a few nice shots of the new Emma Maersk which I thought you might find interesting.

Any one started a model yet?
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2007, 08:25:25 AM »

Very impressive. I wonder how many gallons of blue paint it took to cover that hull?

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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2007, 08:32:08 AM »

Very impressive. I wonder how many gallons of blue paint it took to cover that hull?

Barry

None, it is made from blue foam  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2007, 10:02:10 AM »

It's a floating shoe box! and box-boats never move outof the way for you...... (I'll stop noe before i get on my soap stand)
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2008, 06:30:26 PM »

Maybe you all know already, but there is some one here in Denmark Building Emma from scratch. He has a very good web site with loads of photos of the real ship and a very good build history.

If any one fancies having a read the addy is http://www.robse.dk/

And dont worry it is all in English too!
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2008, 07:21:44 PM »

wander what it does to the gallon? (or should that be Km's per tonne of fuel)
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2008, 07:58:45 PM »

hi all heres a link to the company that maker her engine some great photos

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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2008, 08:58:44 PM »

hi all heres a link to the company that maker her engine some great photos

john

where??
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2008, 06:54:13 PM »

How sad. I must have been very fortunate to spend my cadetship on ships that spent long enough in port to let the poor inmates have a "bit of a run shore". I can't see why anyone would want to screech around the world without ever seeing anything but water.
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2008, 07:50:33 PM »

Bryan, you have to consider yourself lucky enough to have had a shetered life at sea!

Even in my relatively recent experiences of Box Boats, Tankers, Bulkies and Gas Carriers, time in port was always measured in hours, usually in single digits!!
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2008, 10:57:34 PM »

Bryan, you have to consider yourself lucky enough to have had a shetered life at sea!

Even in my relatively recent experiences of Box Boats, Tankers, Bulkies and Gas Carriers, time in port was always measured in hours, usually in single digits!!
Not "lucky"...just well chosen. Not so sheltered though as all the "work" was done at sea, so "in-port" time was for fun.
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 12:52:56 PM »

sorry all was in a rush ,must have got it wrong. well here the link to her engine.

john

http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2008, 03:34:51 AM »

Wow!!!  What a size!!!!

Gary :)
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2008, 09:58:43 AM »

wander what it does to the gallon? (or should that be Km's per tonne of fuel)

I make it 480 gallons per mile, at top speed. Say 0.00208 mpg. :D

Or a third of a tonne per kilometre.

Still, that's not bad when you're moving 150000 tonnes of stuff.  O0


Boring Explanation...

I see the engine is listed as using 171 grammes of fuel per kWhr at full load. That's an output of 21050 joules per gram. The total output of the engine is a maximum 84.4MW, so it must burn 4.01 kg of fuel a second. (Making it about 50% efficient, which feels ok for a big diesel.) A UK gallon of fuel oil masses about 4.1kg.

At 25.5 knots, she takes 123 seconds to do a mile - that's around 492 kg of oil, or 480 gallons.

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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2008, 11:42:02 AM »

hi all thats only the 14 cylinder i think the emma masersk has the 16 cylinder version.

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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2008, 01:33:33 PM »

As a comparrison for a modern 83,000 grt cruise ship an average monthly fuel consumption works out to about 220 gm/Kwhr.  That equates to about 50 foot/gallon!

Also bear in mind that fuel is now about $750.00/ton and a typical consumption for the ship above would be around 100 tons/day, i.e. $75,000.00 per day!! :o
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2008, 04:45:50 PM »

at those prices, someone was on the right track with the NS savannah.
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2008, 09:37:01 AM »

...and these weren't a bad idea, either!

  {-)

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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2008, 09:43:06 AM »

Yes, thousands of miles to the galleon....
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2008, 12:13:15 PM »

Oh, Colin !

I'd schooner you hadn't written that. You'r barque-ing up the wrong tree and are clearly on a slippery sloop.

Roger in France.
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2008, 02:49:56 PM »

What was that wine you mentioned the other day Roger, I'd like to order some?  ;)
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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2008, 07:12:02 PM »

is it true the emma maersk went on fire?
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2008, 07:17:22 PM »

yes she did catch fire when she was almost finished. I delayed her hand over to her owners for a bit.

john
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A really BIG Engine
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2009, 05:03:35 AM »

One of our members, Damien, has asked me to post these photos of a huge marine engine, the Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C turbocharged two-stroke diesel. This engine produces 108,920 hp at 102 rpm, and 5,608,312 lb/ft torque at 102rpm. I have resized the pictures, and copied most of the information from the email Damien sent me.

Some more details-

The Wartsila-Sulzer RTA96-C turbocharged two-stroke diesel engine is the most powerful and most efficient prime-mover in the world today. The Aioi Works of Japan 's Diesel United, Ltd built the first engines and is where some of these pictures were taken. It is available in 6 through 14 cylinder versions, all are inline engines. These engines were designed primarily for very large container ships. Ship owners like a single engine/single propeller design and the new generation of larger container ships needed a bigger engine to propel them. The cylinder bore is just under 38" and the stroke is just over 98". Each cylinder displaces 111,143 cubic inches (1820 liters) and produces 7780 horsepower. Total displacement comes out to 1,556,002 cubic inches (25,480 liters) for the fourteen cylinder version.
Some facts on the 14 cylinder version:

Total engine weight:
2300 tons (The crankshaft alone weighs 300 tons.)

Length:
89 feet

Height:
44 feet

Fuel consumption at maximum power is 0.278 lbs per hp per hour (Brake Specific Fuel Consumption). Fuel consumption at maximum economy is 0.260 lbs/hp/hour. At maximum economy the engine exceeds 50% thermal efficiency. That is, more than 50% of the energy in the fuel in converted to motion.
For comparison, most automotive and small aircraft engines have BSFC figures in the 0.40-0.60 lbs/hp/hr range and 25-30% thermal efficiency range.

Even at its most efficient power setting, the big 14 consumes 1,660 gallons of heavy fuel oil per hour.

The internals of this engine are a bit different than most automotive engines.
The top of the connecting rod is not attached directly to the piston. The top of the connecting rod attaches to a "crosshead" which rides in guide channels. A long piston rod then connects the crosshead to the piston..
I assume this is done so the the sideways forces produced by the connecting rod are absorbed by the crosshead and not by the piston. Those sideways forces are what makes the cylinders in an auto engine get oval-shaped over time.

The "spikes" on the piston rods are hollow tubes that go into the holes you can see on the bottom of the pistons (picture 5) and inject oil into the inside of the piston which keeps the top of the piston from overheating. Some high-performance auto engines have a similar feature where an oil squirter nozzle squirts oil onto the bottom of the piston.
The cylinder deck (10 cylinder version). Cylinder liners are die-cast ductile cast iron. Look at the size of those head studs!

This is one BIG engine.

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« Last Edit: October 07, 2009, 05:10:27 AM by Peter Fitness »
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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2009, 11:32:20 PM »

Thanks Peter.

The stats for this engine are staggering, just the thought of the machinery required to make and balance engines this size boggle the mind.
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Re: A really BIG Engine
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2009, 09:21:45 AM »

Just a couple of interesting little bits that you perhaps don't see in the statistics:

1) The crankshaft is fabricated and the pieces are held together by no more than a heat generated shrink fit.  Imagine all that power being transmnitted through nothing more than the grip of a shrink fit?  At the joints there are little witness marks so you can determine if the seperate components of the crankshaft have slipped.  If this should ever happen, as a result of say the propeller ever being knocked, you would have to retime the part of the engine after the slip.

2)  All the fasteners on engines such as this are hydraulic and it is remarkably easy to remove the various components.  The fastener, such as a stud, are 'stretched' hydraulically to a point whereby the 'nut' can be removed by hand.  The hydraulic pressure is then released.  Items such as cylinder heads can then be fitted and removed as a single operation as all the studs are stretched together.

3) You check the transfer ports by standing on the top of the piston and turning the engine on the turning gear.  You then go down into the cylinder as though you are in a lift!

4) Did you notice the ladder fitted into the crankcase?  This is necessary to gain access to the lower piston seal and you have to go down one ladder into the bottom of the crankcase, then up another that goes all the way to the top.

5) When these engines are running you can stand at one end of it and align a particular item, such as an injector or air start valve, on the cylinder head by eye. You can then 'see' the engine 'flowing' as each cylinder stretches slightly when it fires.

6) To accomodate this effect each cylinder is built as a completely seperate item, which sits on top of the crankcase, and are all bolted together.

7) You need a crane to transport the injectors around!

8) The crosshead arrangement is exactly as Peter suggests, to transmit all the sideways forces generated from the crankshaft into the crosshead guides, thereby removing them from the piston.  This allows the piston to be of a comparatively lighter construction and removes any unwanted sideways thrust on the cylinder wall and the piston rod seal.  It also enables the two stroke configuration to be used with the transfer ports in the base of the cylinder wall and the space below the piston to be used to 'pump' the charge air into the scavenge space, known as 'Under Piston Scavenging'.
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2009, 09:55:33 AM »

Some of the text attached to each picture were lost in the file conversion what i remember are p5 a shot of the piston with lots of holes bored into the underside pic6 shows the connecting rods with a myriad of fingers which are tube that feed oil into the piston to dissipate the heat of combustion.
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Re: A really BIG Engine
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2009, 02:30:24 PM »

Thanks Bunkerbarge, your post was very interesting.
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Re: A really BIG Engine
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2009, 06:00:18 PM »

Hi,

A couple of questions for someone in the know- the pic of the three guys craning the main bearings into place-

1- They don't look overly big- I would have imagined 5-6inch deep with the amount of pressure on them?
2- If they are so thin then what are they made out of- they look like a plastic to me!

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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2009, 04:16:51 PM »

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Re: Emma Maersk
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2009, 06:19:07 PM »

Not exactly a small piston rod was it!! :o
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Re: A really BIG Engine
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2009, 10:23:13 PM »

Just a couple of interesting little bits that you perhaps don't see in the statistics:

2)  All the fasteners on engines such as this are hydraulic and it is remarkably easy to remove the various components.  The fastener, such as a stud, are 'stretched' hydraulically to a point whereby the 'nut' can be removed by hand.  The hydraulic pressure is then released.  Items such as cylinder heads can then be fitted and removed as a single operation as all the studs are stretched together.


Bunkerbarge,

Here is a pictorial view I have of bolt tensioning using hydraulic jacks. If anyone has seen large diameter nuts with blind holes drilled in the spanner flats, this is what they are used for.

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