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RipSlider

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Re: What are the best makes of tools?
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2008, 12:53:49 am »

Eh?

how did this get aggressive?  :o :o :o :o

All I said was that I personally have a concern about buying snap-on. Perhaps it was just a single bad example that I used, but the only hammer I ever managed to break was a snap-on hammer, and it a new-ish hammer and was being used to bolster out bricks.

Not used anything else. I do know that some people that I speak to sing Snap-on praises long and hard, and others think that your paying for a name. My personal experience with Snap-On makes me feel that the second may reflect reality.

In the same way, my dad wouldn't use Stanley as a knife he was using came to pieces in his hands and he ended up with stitches. I personally have no issues with Stanley, but he was put  off the brand by that experience.

DieselDo
If you make your living with Snap-on.. well... bully for you I guess. I'm very happy for you. No need for aggression.

This is a "forum" - i.e a collective of people. And I have asked for collective thoughts. Some people here obviously like snap on. Others don't. Outside of this forum, I've asked metal workers, wood workers, a working engineer, two retired engineers and a blacksmith  all for their opinions. Lots of people ( in and out of this forum ) have suggested Facom - so now I'm having a good look at them. Not so many have suggested Snap-on in a positive light, so I'm not so focused on them. However, it seems their screw drivers get positive reviews, so I'll have a gander at those as well.

I can see that this topic might end up in a flame war, so I'll say thank you all for your input and lets leave the thread to die.

Steve




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Re: What are the best makes of tools?
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2008, 01:05:27 am »

Steve,
It wont as I am keeping an eye on it.

Bob
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Martin13

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Re: What are the best makes of tools?
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2008, 08:10:12 am »

Eh?

how did this get aggressive?  :o :o :o :o

I can see that this topic might end up in a flame war, so I'll say thank you all for your input and lets leave the thread to die.

Steve


Aggression ??? ??? When people start THROWING tools at you - that's aggression. But hey, don't knock it - at least you get them for free {-) {-) {-)

Ive got a 20 inch thicknesser for sale - interested ;). Really handy for models that don't turn out well. Feed in one end - instant garden mulch the other end {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Come-on Steve, you know by now if you ask for an opinion on the forum you will get conflicting opinions. Take from it what you want and ignore the rest. After all - it's YOUR money O0

Martin
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GaryM

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Re: What are the best makes of tools?
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2008, 11:35:09 pm »

Steve - the wood chisels from the site mentioned look VERY nice, but I bet there expensive!
I bought a manual Micrometer from a shop called Sutton's in Birmingham, 23 years ago - it's still around, are you going to get one of these or a digital one?
Have you made any choices about other tools yet? O0

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Gary :)
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Re: What are the best makes of tools?
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2008, 02:00:43 pm »

I've made some choices, but not all.

Calipers and Micrometer - looking for both in analouge ( so not batteries to run out)  and both in Lab grade accuracy as they will be used for ammunition reloading as well as general/model work -  when a 1/1000" actually matters quite a lot. Sigma-Aldrich are looking good so far, but not sure if there are the most robust of tools, as they are designed for a lab, rather than a workshop enviroment. Will borrow a set from a friend and see what they are like.


Screw drivers - I'm going to get a couple from Snap-On and a couple from Facom and then give them a work out for a while around the house dealing with corroded old screws. If one is a lot better than the other then I'll go down that route, otherwise I'll buy on the cheapest of the two which would mean Snap-On for most of them.

Spanners: Looks like I've managed to secure a set of "proper" - i.e pre- 1980's FootPrint spanners in return for a couple of deer next season so jumped at that oppurtunity. Everyone I've spoken too believes old FootPrint stuff are about the best spanners to have been made. ( King Dick has been mentioned as well - seem a bit of a fan boy subject to be honest - can't believe the ferocity of peoples choice in spanners!   ::) ::) ::) ) - part of this is driven buy guilt though. I threw out two full drawers of FootPrint

still not decided on a make for the files, but that's becuase I want 1/2 sized files as the priority. Also, can't find ma ny companies selling Farmers files which is a pain.

Chisels: I've borrowed a set of japenese style chisels which are sold by Highland Wodworking. ( www.highlandwoodworking.com I think ) They are a 128 way lamination of two different steels ( 1 hard, 1 soft ) and have an edge so sharp it's evil. I watched the owner ( a chap who works at a local light engineering shop ) shear of a brand new m8 steel bolt using one of  them and then go on to hone a piece of plywood as if the chisel was a razor. I was *very* impressed. Plus they are ferruled as well.

 Will also get a set of true Water stones from them. Can't find a source for a coarse grade Whetstone currently, and I should probably look for a fine grade whetstne at some point as mine is wearing out. Not a fan of carbarundum style blocks - they end up shiny and are a pain to flatten off if they get a track in them.

I was tempted by Highland Woodworking's hammers as well, but they don't feel very balanced when I had a swing of a couple of them so I'll keep looking. Trying to track down someone with Facom hammers so I can have a swing of them and see how they balance.

Facom is looking good for most other things on my list as well.

Not thought about power tools yet - it's a whole seperate conversation with Mrs Steve - not sure she will like the idea of all that noise to be honest. I might "buy as I need" in the case of power tools.

Biggest issue I'm having is the bench vice to be honest. Lots of people seem to sell them, but can't see any that have the spring release on them. Not only is it a good backstop to over-tightening, but it also means that you can just pull the vice out rather than having to screw it out all the time. Anyone got any thoughts?

I also want one with replaceable jaws. That way I can get a couple of aliminum jaws made up for light work and a couple of steel sets made up for "hack and bash" sort of stuff. They can just live at the back of the drawer in the bench. Can't see me ever getting through more than a couple of sets - although my pop did destroy three steel sets in a year once - he kept catching them with an angle grinder.


Thanks for the help and advice so far.

Steve
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Re: What are the best makes of tools?
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2008, 10:38:54 pm »

I always recommend buying cheap and then if you use the tool a lot, replace it with better. That way you only replace the tools you really use and the ones you don't (we all have some lurking in the box), you don't waste money on.

If you don't have one, give Squires (http://www.squirestools.com/) a ring for their free catalogues. Most of the tools they list are available in several versions so you can buy as good as you need. If you are only making boats for fun then I doubt you'd get your monies worth from the top end mechanics stuff.

Another useful source for smaller stuff are the various tool sellers found in the Jewellery Quarter in Birmingham. I'm not sure thay are much better than Squires but for some items they would be worth a trip.

Final point - good tools don't necessarily make good models. They might help, but a good modeller makes better models with rubbish tools than a rubbish modeller makes with good ones.

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GaryM

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Re: What are the best makes of tools?
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2008, 11:15:19 pm »

"Another useful source for smaller stuff are the various tool sellers found in the Jewellery Quarter in Birmingham. I'm not sure thay are much better than Squires but for some items they would be worth a trip."

I agree with Phil - I bought my micrometer from the Jewelry Quarter - Sutton's by the clock tower.  They sell all kinds of measuring tools.

regards
Gary :)

PS What's a Farmers file?
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Re: What are the best makes of tools?
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2008, 12:13:28 am »

A farmers file is the folder he keeps the receipts in for the tractor servicing, usually by the local tractor dealer, who has a mechanic who swears by snapon tools...not a rounded nut or butchered bolt on that lovely old tractor...... O0 The farmers wife however has her own file, to do her nails (finger, not roof), now as that is only light work, she gets that file from the local poundshop..,  :D
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