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[cos918]

was trawling the net and found these photos of a crane barge model. Yep they are full size pallets.

john

[nhp651]

hi, john. always wondered. what does it mean when it says "short tons". cheers, neil

[Bryan Young]

hi, john. always wondered. what does it mean when it says "short tons". cheers, neil

I was always under the impression that a "short ton" was 2,000 lbs as opposed to the standard of 2240 lb. Was I wrong? BY.

[dougal99]

hi, john. always wondered. what does it mean when it says "short tons". cheers, neil

I was always under the impression that a "short ton" was 2,000 lbs as opposed to the standard of 2240 lb. Was I wrong? BY.

That's what I have always understood. 

[banjo]

 
Stolen from wikipedia:-

There are three similar units of mass called the ton:

   1. long ton (simply ton in countries such as the United Kingdom which formerly used the Imperial system of weights and measures) is a weight ton or gross ton, and is 2,240 pounds (exactly 1,016.0469088 kg).
         
   2. short ton (usually called simply ton in North America or sometimes called a net ton) = 2,000 lb (about 907.18474 kg).
          * Harbour ton used in South Africa in the 20th century, equal to 2000 pounds or one short ton.
 
 3. The metric ton, or tonne, is 1,000 kg (or 1 Mg) or approximately 2,204.6 pounds.

[nhp651]

thanks for clearing that one up, banjo. I often wondered.cheers,neil.

[Bryan Young]

thanks for clearing that one up, banjo. I often wondered.cheers,neil.

Of course, you still have the "gross ton"....which is 100 cubic feet of fresh air.....

[nhp651]

thats the only one I did know, bryan.....mind you even that one has anomilies in that such spaces as engine room, cabin space and such are not included???
all a big puzzle to me.

[kiteman1]

I was watching the golf from Birkdale today and noticed in one long shot what appeared to be a Seabex type vessel hoisted high on long stilts out in the North Sea.  Can anyone tell me more please...............

[banjo]

thanks for clearing that one up, banjo. I often wondered.cheers,neil.

Of course, you still have the "gross ton"....which is 100 cubic feet of fresh air.....

and a "shipping ton" which is 40 cubic feet....

BTW Bryan do you like my Ensign?

[nhp651]

kiteman....you mean the Irish sea. it's part of the gas feild out there, which is pumped over to Heysham

[kiteman1]

kiteman....you mean the Irish sea. it's part of the gas feild out there, which is pumped over to Heysham

Thanks for that......sorry about the geographical faux pas, probably got water on my brain.  I'd still like to know what the rig is all about if anyone knows.............

[nhp651]

watch my lips and dry that water from your brain........IT'S PART OF THE GAS FIELD EXPLORATION!!!

[kiteman1]

Thanks for that..........no need to shout.  Over here in land-locked Derbyshire we don't seem to have much in the way of Gasfield exploration, so we don't normally get to know about such things...Maybe you could post a pic of the rig in question??

[funtimefrankie]

The platform on the left is unmanned and the jack up rig comes from time to time, for servicing....so i'm told.
It's part of the Hamilton Gas complex.

http://www.wmc.com/bbContentRepository/docs/OurBusiness/Petroleum/LiverpoolBayFactsheet.pdf

and have a look at

http://www.aisliverpool.org.uk/gascam.php

during daylight !!

We're just a few minutes walk from the golf so we can watch TV to see what the weathers doing outside  :)

[funtimefrankie]

Here's a picture I took earlier....

The young man in the foreground is attached to a kite, strange hobbies some people have

[kiteman1]

Here's a picture I took earlier....

The young man in the foreground is attached to a kite, strange hobbies some people have

As a lifelong kiter I've found some really strange model boaters too over the last thirty years of boating.  Strange what some of us get up to in our spare time innit?.................

Thanks for the pix and links posted gents.  The pic as shown was the one I saw on the box.................Great White Shark for the Open title.................

[kiteman1]

Hi FTFrankie

Just to add a little to your fascinating link posting, you might be interested to know that my son-in-law is a draughtie in Oz and works on the design of oil pipes and underwater drilling trouble shooting.  He's a lucky so and so because he gets out on the rigs off Oz, usually in better weather than we have at the moment.... all right for some isn't it?

[funtimefrankie]

He's a picture I took the other evening, the rigs must just been detached from each other .