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New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« on: November 22, 2006, 11:44:15 pm »


Has anyone seen or bought the new Multiplex Cockpit SX radio?
The reviews are all raving about it.....

http://www.rc-soar.com/multiplex/cockpitsx/review.htm

http://www.modelspot.com/mpx/cockpitsx.htm


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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2006, 05:08:54 pm »

I have been struggling with setting up my SX. So far I have found that selecting model type as heli and using mode 4, all the 6 proportional controls work. I haven't tried the mixers or electronic Y lead yet.
Hope somebody else gives us their findings.
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2006, 09:07:37 pm »

Hi

I have been considering purchasing one of the new Multiplex Cockpit SX R/C sets, as they really do look to be a great product.

I would be very interested to know whether the Cockpit SX TX works OK with an ordinary Futaba or Hitec type 40mhz RX (ie.  one with a 40mhz crystal in them), as well as with the supplied Multiplex synthesised RX?

Not sure I would be brave enough to risk putting a £70 RX in a Club 500 model!

Thanks

Victor G7TMU
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2006, 09:41:32 pm »

Like the idea of that frequency selection on the Tx would be good if you can use it with a normal rx and xtal, as you say to put a 70 quid Rx in a club 500 or ic powered model is a bit of a risk, should have had this years ago. However I can hear the BOF's down the club moaning about how do you know what freqency peoples on and the peg board not gettin used properly. The BOF's have a hard time as it is gettin the right peg for the xtals they're using!!
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 11:04:15 pm »

A Quick Update

I was in the Bournemouth area this morning and called in to Westbourne Models and purchased a new Multiplex Cockpit SX R/C set.

My initial reactions are that it's very good, but a long way to go before I can fully get to grips with it, but a few points for anyone considering getting one of these sets.

1. The set consists of the TX, RX and 1 servo and nothing else, ie. no switch leads, RX battery or charger!

2. The lack of a charger is a slight problem as Multiplex use a 7 pin DIN plug which serves as a charger socket and  for various other purposes, like flight simulator connections etc. No wiring diagram is included as to which pins are for the charger. The best option would have been to have purchased just a charger lead and use my normal Pro-Peak Prodigy charger, but Westbourne Models didn't sell them! I had to buy a Multiplex TX charger and suspect I will end up cutting just the plug lead off it, which is an expensive way of doing it. I have now worked out how to wire the plug, but 7 pin DIN plugs are not that easy to find.

3. The TX works fine with my existing Hitec and Cirrus RX's, which have crystals in them. Equally the Mutiplex synthesised RX will work OK with a standard Hitec TX.

4. Set up couldn't be easier as you simply set the desired frequency on the TX screen and then switch on the RX and it almost automatically sets its frequency to match the TX.

5. The receiver won't work if the RX battery is less than 4.7 volts at switch on. This caused me some confusion at first as I managed to try it first time with a somewhat dead RX nicad.

6. The TX won't transmit until you press a button on the TX to confirm.

7. The TX has no less that 3 separate timers. The 2 most useful are the run timer which starts when you activate the throttle and a countdown timer which you can set to sound an alarm after a preset time, such as anticipated battery life. The third timer simply records the number of hours the TX has been used and is ongoing up to 99 hours.

8. The TX antenna is rather long, although a shortened stub antenna is supposedly available at extra cost, but it does have a reduced range. The antenna is stored inside the TX's case when not in use.

9. It look as though any 40Mhz frequency can be selected and possibly into 41Mhz as well, which would be illegal!

10. The manual is very good but is entirely aimed at R/C aircraft operation and makes no mention of surface craft operation.
Hopefully users can add their ideas to the Forum to help others.

11. The TX sticks can be set up with ratchets or self-centering, with adjustable spring tension, via screws in the back of the case, which require the use of a Tork screwdriver, but fortunately one of these is supplied.

My next step is to set up the memories for each of my models, as each memory can be saved against a 6 character alpha-numeric name.

Plainly there is a lot more to learn, particularly as regards use of the mixers, electronic Y leads etc.

Hope this is of interest?

Victor
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2007, 12:34:56 pm »

Victor,

Of interest? - It just makes my brain (such as is left) start to throb. All very well for the aviation lot but I still prefer something that doesn't need a degree in advanced electronics to figure it out. K.I.S.S. is my ambition.  :o
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2007, 11:05:39 am »

 ::)I have recently purchased a "Cockpit SX" From Westbourne Models but like most other boaters find it complex in the extreme, can anybody tell me how i can simply get all seven channels to operate on seven separate transmitter controls??
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2007, 11:19:13 am »

I rest my case.... :)
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2007, 11:35:50 am »

I have only used 4 channels in my Cockpit SX so far, so can't help with that. The instructions certainly need an addendum for surface model use! I think though I read somewhere that you have to use the 'heli' mode to get all 7 channels (rather than the standard 'Easy' mode), but might be wrong.

I recently acquired the stub antenna for my Cockpit SX TX and it works very well. I expected a much reduced range but it works OK within the confines of my club's lake. The standard TX antenna is very long and cumbersome I find.

In the months Model Boats magazine there is an interesting paragraph about how to set up motor mixing on the Cockpit SX using the 'Mixer V-Tail' mode function, which is useful and worth a read if you own one of these sets. I have stuck a copy of this article in the back of the manual.

The most useful bit of the Cockpit SX is the fact you are not stuck needing crystals all the time, together with the memories saved for each models individual setup.

Hope you get it sorted.

Victor (g7tmu)
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2007, 10:29:48 pm »

 I also recently purchased a cockpit SX and found it to be pretty fantastic! I soon had my six boats, one hovercraft and one car entered in the memory.

It's great to go from one model to another and not have to fiddle with crystals. reversing servos etc.(I have on occasion with my old "trany" changed crystals to run another model opened the throttle to see it speed backwards! put the stick to the right to see it turn left!)

Another great feature is to be able to adjust the servo travel between 1% & 110% on each throw, Two of my boats are hydroplanes with 100% movement the propeller catches the off-set rudder. In the past I could reduce the throw to clear the prop but reduced both throws equally, now I can adjust the throw accurately to miss the prop and keep my nice tight left throw turns (increase them to 110% if I want).

Yep! I like it

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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2007, 04:21:30 pm »

I to have recently purchased a cockpit SX and have set it up as in the Model Boats article for twin motors and props.  No trouble at the moment.

I have also set it up for a fast torpedo boat so that I have full rudder movement at part throttle and a limited movement at full throttle, making the boat easier to handle.

I have contacted Multiplex about getting all 7 channels to operate individually, they say that at the moment this is not possible but they will consider it. This limitation reduces its usefulness and to me makes it poor value for money.

The charger wire can be bought separately. It is about 2ft long and is fitted with 2 off 4mm plugs for the charger.

Hope others can find more uses for the mixers etc.
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2007, 05:28:49 pm »

I have made a chart to show which Rx channel responds to which transmitter operation for all the modes and use of the 3-2-1 switch. I did this by mounting 7 servos and watching what happened.

If any body is interested I will either e-mail it or with Admin permission send it for the forum.
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2007, 10:32:02 am »

I have also tried the two motor mixer idea in the Model Boating magazine for the Multiplex mx, the only problem is it only works in forward, in reverse it operates in the opposite direction the same problem with the jjc electronics mixer. The assumption being that aircraft do not fly backwards i suspect. - Warbler
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2008, 08:12:35 pm »

I have been using the cockpit SX for nearly 2 years now and it has allways annoyed me that for most modes Channel 5 was linked to channel 1, thus effectively making it a 6 channel for modelboating purposes

I have recently found out that multiplex have released an update to the software.

 I had mine updated by the Multiplex service man and it now works brilliantly.

In all the Easy modes channel 5 can now be allocated to any of the controls and switches making the transmitter a true 7 channel transmitter for modelboating purposes.

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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2008, 09:17:05 pm »

I know many people who have one, it's kind of the ultimate glider tranny.

Although i have heard about peoples aileron (rudder) trims messing themselves up when they reach full limit.

Very very good for gliding, dunno about boats.
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2008, 12:38:02 am »


I have one. I find the setup menus very tedious / unhelpful / over complex.....  :-\
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2008, 07:41:46 pm »

If you need help, I can refer you to someone...
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2008, 08:16:14 pm »

Martin
I take it you've already got this
http://www.multiplex-rc.de/cms/vorschau/upload/d_anleitungen/t_cockpit_sx_v1_gb.pdf
ONLY 76 pages of closely written instructions - are you a man or a mouse  {-)
I like the look of them as the controls are in the right place for my pudgy large delicate fingers!
So, following the electronics degree, I might get one.
There is also a good Q & A bit here
http://www.modelspot.com/mpx/mpxfaq.htm
Danny

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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2008, 08:40:40 pm »


It's a great transmitter, I guess I'm just a Futaba Luddite!
Great "feel" to the thing in the hand and very clever.
.... wasn't they recalled recently?
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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2008, 08:41:55 pm »

This is great info, I am thinking of one of these for myself.

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Re: New Multiplex radio Multiplex "Cockpit SX" 40Mhz
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2008, 09:05:37 pm »

Indeed they were Martin, sets manufactured between Dec 06 and May 08 were recalled due to potential faulty components.
From Multiplex, Germany

Does my transmitter concerned by the recall?
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If you purchased your transmitter after December 2006, send it to us for inspection (whatever frequency band it is 35/36/40/41/72 MHz).
The serial no. will not help to identify the production date.
For you it is not possible to carry out the check yourself.
If you can not determine the purchase date send the transmitter in anyway to be on the safe side.
If your transmitter has been serviced by MULTIPLEX in Germany before the 15.05.2008 (date of invoice) it must be sent in again. If it was serviced by one of our Service Partners the deadline is 10.06.2008 (date of invoice).
Transmitter built after May 2008 are not concerned. These are labelled “MPX 08/05” (year/month) or later by a small sticker on the outside of the lower transmitter case.


All should now be sorted out (I'd trust them rather than the Futaba "2.4gHz is OK now")

You'll just have to get used to the fact that your rudder is now the small button on the top left  {-) {-)

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