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[colin-stevens]

while rummaging through my drawings, looking for some other info, i came across drawings by J Lambert of HMS Sticklbat. feeling restless, and a strong urge to be patriotic(other two projects wear the swastica) i am thinking about it as my next project. seem to remember one of the mags did an article on her and someones build. cant blooming well find it! any one the wiser? also is she still on display at HMS Dolphin? the drawings are superb, but piccies are soooo much more use.
cheers

[warspite]

Is this the 4 man sub?

One of the regatta's at windermere had one being operated - don't know which club, very good model

[sweeper]

Might be that my memory is going a bit (alright a lot).
Don't they have a sectioned X craft at IWM Duxford?
Seem to remember it's cut through and you can walk between the engine room and the control room. View each of them through glass screen.
Or is it located someplace else I've been to visit? ???

[warspite]

Not sure if it was one of the liverpool / wirral / st helens group, when they get back from EPIC they may clear up the owner and if they have plans etc.

[colin-stevens]

after looking back through me mags, for the 3rd time, found it. Marine Modelling, 2002-april.
been re-drawing most of the afternooon, on auto-cad. not as straight forward as i thought, especialy the sharp end. hopefully the article will clear things up.
failing that i am sure you lot will be full of help and sites to look at. googled her, not a lot of help. strange, this has happened before, but sites have been posted that i have not turned up.

[DavieTait]

I believe that there is one remaining X-craft either at the Imperial War Museum or down at the RN Submarine Museum in Gosport ( I think thats where its at , same place that they have HMS Andrew hauled out as an exhibit ).

Davie

[uboatbuilder]

its at duxford. Im pretty sure its in the far left hand corner (as you walk in) of one of the hangars. i think its next to a sea vixen. it was last time i went anyway. i think it was last year sometime. its cut away to walk through and there is a model of its route to sink the tirpitz.

[colin-stevens]

cheers, seem to be two on display, duxford and HMS Dolphin. not sure which varient is at what. more research, more help.
can any one solve the following for me? have the sheer line drawing attached. trouble is i cant work out how far along the keeel, or how far apart they are, if that makes sense. they dont seem to match with the side elevations.

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[warspite]

been re-drawing most of the afternooon, on auto-cad. not as straight forward as i thought, especialy the sharp end. hopefully the article will clear things up.

noticed you copied the drawing to the autocad and overlaid your circles to suit (tried this for Generalansicht) if you export the drawing as an mpeg and then open that in microsoft photo editor, you can save it as a jpeg - just another option

[colin-stevens]

not sure what you mean. the area of the sheer lines was scaned in to the pc. so it is a JPEG. it was then put into Auto cad as a Rasta then traced over. i can then mess with the scaling till i get to the size i want. the onlly reason you saw it as the way it was is because i copied it into Word, for some reason it didnt want to go in to paint. also something funny happens to the scale when putting it into paint, havnt worked that out yet. also looking into a printer that will do A3. make life alot easier.

[warspite]

For the generalansicht (note this just for testing purposes - to see if it could be done, the ship would still need to be 'traced' over, as i am not into WW1 vessels), i saved the picture off the web (dont remember where), it came as a .jpeg.

All i did was copy and paste it into autocad 2005 to see if i could trace over it, no problem, bit blocky close up but workable, to save, i exported to a .bmp format, this i then opened in the MS photo editor and saved it as a .jpeg.

The only reason was to attach to the forum if i need to 'sketch' an idea. not for scale purposes, for printing i can save to a lower autocad format and print on A3 at work, dont know if buying an A3 would be economically viable, by using an A4 printer and create a patchwork of drawings would be better as i already have the A4 printer.

As i said just another option for creating jpeg autocad sketches.

The other ting i remembered that the reason why both halfs of the drawing did not match may be due to the fact that the front half profile may not mirror the rear half profile, if the spacings between the sections is the same, there may be a larger diameter at the back to account for the engine so the front is not symmetrically the same as the rear - but what do i know!! :-[

[colin-stevens]

Ah, thanks for that , thught i might have missed a trick.
Still need advice on placing the sheerlines in relation to the keel/side elevation.

[Paxton]

Still need advice on placing the sheerlines in relation to the keel/side elevation.


Colin; 

In my experience, the body plan relates to the profile insofar as the foremost and aftermost sections sit at the forward and after perpendiculars.  If you know the distance between perpendiculars, then the remainder of the sections are equally spaced along the line of the keel.  The standard is 21 sections, allowing for 20 equal sized spaces.  According to Jane's, Stickleback had a length between perpendiculars of 50.7 feet., so the paces between sections should be more or less 2.5 feet.  I am having a bit of difficulty discerning the sections on your document, but since the X boats were British, I suspect the 20 spaces/21 sections will apply.  Try it any way and it may become clear.  If 20 is the wrong number, it will be immediately apparent the lines are not fair.

Send me a PM if you need more.

Cheers

Don K.

[colin-stevens]

that was my original thought, but don't seem to be working out like that. but i am getting there. using a few photos and mark one eyeball.
ta
colin