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guitar man

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tree nails
« on: July 13, 2009, 09:50:15 pm »

Hello all back for a second question I am soon to begin planking a hull for the first time. I have done lots of information searching on this site and come up with a few ways that seemed to be used to hold the planks while gluing i.e. use of pins spring clamps, like that idea with a cork to apply pressure etc
   However there were a couple of references to tree nails which sounds an interesting idea but I can find no real details of how it works. I gather that it is done from bamboo? Is this like a bamboo cane or something different?
   How do you make them?
   How do they hold the plank in place till the glue dries?   
From what I can understand from the full size version they had a wedge driven into them I would not have thought this would be the case for a model set up but perhaps so
Would be very grateful if anyone out there can throw some light on the matter 
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Colin Bishop

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Re: tree nails
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 10:04:04 pm »

Treenails, trenails or trunnels are wooden pegs or dowels used to fasten pieces of wood together. They were used in fulll size boatbuilding but on models you would more commonly use pins instead.

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Re: tree nails
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 06:35:21 am »

Toothpicks and cocktail sticks are often made of bamboo, look for the ones made in China.

However, unless you are making a very big boat they would be much larger than scale treenails.
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Umi_Ryuzuki

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Re: tree nails
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 08:27:53 am »

If you are going to make your own trenails, you will need to get a good draw plate.
Any good mooter owns a good draw plate to down size dowels to a proper scale trenail.

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YTHANEIDER

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Re: tree nails
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2009, 12:45:24 pm »

see the Clyude Ring Netter file ... 3/4in to 1ft scale (hull about 41-in overall) is entirely fastened using dowells. Have used this technique successfully several times
feedstock is the humble cocktail stick, though a really large model could justify use of kebab skewer size
important, DO NOT use bamboo if hull planking is bog ordinary pine/pitchpine, oregon, or the rubbish "illigitimate"-mahoganys of the kind purveyed in model stores. If you do, sanding will lead to hundreds of small bumps and you don't want that
If working with oak, then by all means use bamboo
I am scribbling this from direct experience of using both
important to predrill all holes to effectively the same size as dowell, inject a decent quality wood glue into hole/coat dowell and gently whang home with a small hammer. Uwe clamps to hold stressed planks until glue hardens
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