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[ROSYTH]

Hi Folks, just thought I would drop a few pics on the forum of a Plank on Frame Hull, which is 62inch in length and 13inch Beam. She came to me empty
as in no internal structure or power source so it is going to be a build up and then fit it out with a steam plant as shown.

So if anyone has any comments they would like to pass on as I go along please feel free as I would like to make a decent job of it as it will be a big Launch when
finished and on the water.
I have already fitted the servos and electrics for steering and rudder control so that's one less job to do and am just thinking about any extras that could be added
like water tanks etc etc, any suggestions let me know.
I am looking to use the Richmond Twin cylinder steam engine and the matched Vertical Boiler from same maker and wondered if this would be enough power
to propell such a beast through the water?

So thanks for now and please comment as it progresses ok.
Cheers
Cliff

[mook]

i think it is looking good, i think you will need something like a 70mm steam prop to push it along. cant wait to race you across the pool

 

[craftysod]

Cliff
That hull looks lovely,hope you got plenty of padding on stand,to stop any scratches.
Please keep us informed of the build process,cant help on powerplant,but there must be an old
steamtrain laying about to power the beast.
Mark

[Bernhard]

Hey Woow what a boat look great,,,,,,,,,,i have a boiler like that,,,it is reale a well working one,,,,you scut get a gas attenuator fore it,,it a wery strong burner,,,,allways nice with some extra water in,,,i use el waterpump in 2 of my steam launchs...
regards Bernhard

[kno3]

Beautiful hull. But to me the engine seems rather small for that huge hull. I don't know it it will be powerful enough.

[Bunkerbarge]

I use the same engine to push a 32lb displacement boat through the water, which draws about 6" draught and it is about 48" long with the hydrodynamics of a brick.  It actually performs quite well and goes far above scale speed if I want it to.

Your boat is quite a bit bigger but much finer lines and a lot less resistance to going through the water.  Having plenty of space I would leave room around the engine so if you are not happy with the performance you can put something a bit bigger in later but I suspect that, unless you want the model to go really fast, it should do the job.

[ROSYTH]

Evening all and thank you for all the input, I appreciate it and it all helps on the building path.

On the space side of things their is plenty of that for sure. So much that as you say Bunkerbarge I can accommodate a bigger plant in time to come should
this one not have the B**** to do it.
I have realised one thing that Mook kindly pointed out in that she will need a bigger prop to give that little extra thrust, so I shall be obtaining either a 70/75mm
prop and see how she cruises with that.
I have no mad intention to beat this Launch about the pond on speed, well maybe one go just to see what she will do and then slip her back into a majestic
mode of gracefully sliding along the water whilst the kettle boils for refreshments.
Hey Bernhard, how you doing kind sir? Had a look at your contributions to the model boating world and what can one say, keep it up your a star and if I can
get anyway near your standard i will be well happy, so i will be looking back at what you have done project wise and nicking a few ideas, if that is acceptable
to you!
On your points raised Bernhard, I have in my drawer of bits a brand new 3 point coupling attenuator valve Gas In/Out and Boiler pressure connection so that will
be incorporated in the plant when assembling it all. As it has a large amount of space, I intend to fit in the Port/Starboard side lockers Copper pipe of a good
diameter which will have soldered fittings to them, both sides will be Water tanks and feed with either an electric pump or shaft driven pump, not decided yet.
In the bow well it is like looking into a deep cavern................so again I have a large copper tank which will slot in perfectly and it is big enough to hold enough
steam exhaust from 5-6 steamings before it needs emptying, so that will be a good idea to fit it in and get good use of the launch whilst on the pond i think.

I am thinking about what type of finish she is going to have, maybe a little early but it helps to get a plan going whilst construction is under way then your
prepared for any problems. So I have quite a lot of what is called CHEVRON inlay and a whole load of gorgeous wide sheet PEAR Wood Veneer and I thought
the Pear along with Mahogany and if I can get hold of some LIME veneer would be a winning combination on the finish.
So tonight I got things moving a little as it will take a while to dry, by gluing the Pear Veneer to various panels and see how they come out and look when
totally dry and ready to look at.
I will of course post some pics as I go along and show what stage I am currently up to ok, I am looking forward to it immensely so again any input whatever it is
is always welcome and thanks again.
I have two of these steam plants which are virtually identical, the other is going into a Red Hull called the Lady Jane on which progress is very slow indeed because
I have been playing with my new 2inch scale Coal Fired Traction engine MINNIE, what fun it is too I can tell you. Anyhow now I can fire the traction engine up at
one end of the garage and well leave it in steam just ticking over and enjoying the coal/oil/steam aroma whilst i now get on with the big beast as it does take quite
a lot of room up, so I will be happy when she is nearing completion and frees up more room as I would like to get a really decent lathe and learn the art of that.......

so much to do with so little time..............anyone heard that before.

Cheers for now
Cliff

[Bernhard]

hI...tHANKS........EL WATER PUMP.....I THINK ARE BETTER IT.DONT TAKE ENY POWER AWAY FROM THE ENGINE.......AND IT can by made to open /close,,wia a servo..so you dont neat eny probe in,,,.i reale hope the engine is big enof,,,if the wind is blowing,,,,,whas it the Hemmens red lady Jane launch from ebay,,,if,,it is a reale nice size,,i have one,,
ok,,,Regards Bernhard

[ROSYTH]

Hi all, just a quick update on the progress of build.
Managed to spend a few hours today sorting out the detail of the rear cabin and such and well managed to work it out.
So for those interested I have added some pics of what I have managed to do so please feel free to point out any mistakes ok.

I will be back on it in a few days and get some more done so until then adios amigos!
Cheers
Cliff

[mook]

I love it, how about a nice wooden tiller arm over that rear deck   

[ROSYTH]

Now that is a good idea............very good idea, keep 'em coming

Cheers

[kno3]

Very interesting shape for your cabin. I like it! A railing would be also a good addition.

[ROSYTH]

Hi Thanks for the comments, more please.
As you can imagine this is a scratch build from Hull up and it is a big launch indeed so there is a lot of work still to do.
I have been going through a Published Book that was produced in America called 'STEAMBOATS & LAUNCHES' which
was published as a magazine and then bound into a book with 3 years worth of magazines from 1961/2/3.
It is a wealth of detail and information on both full size and model launches with steam power.

I found a launch called Victoria in the 1963 section and loosely based the cab on that with the addition of the long canopy
which I have added and run over the steam plant itself. The reason for the extension over the steam is because when the
plant is running and the steam has exhausted to the separator tank and vents up the pipe there is a small amount of spitting
and I want this to land on the Polished canopy and not on the boat and plant itself which would mean more work cleaning it off.
I know its only a small detail but as I go along I try to iron out any problems and get it looking right too.

So please keep the comments coming and I will make a note and incorporate them as I continue the build OK.
Cheers for now

[Weeds]

Hi Thanks for the comments, more please.
As you can imagine this is a scratch build from Hull up and it is a big launch indeed so there is a lot of work still to do.
I have been going through a Published Book that was produced in America called 'STEAMBOATS & LAUNCHES' which
was published as a magazine and then bound into a book with 3 years worth of magazines from 1961/2/3.
It is a wealth of detail and information on both full size and model launches with steam power.

I found a launch called Victoria in the 1963 section and loosely based the cab on that with the addition of the long canopy
which I have added and run over the steam plant itself. The reason for the extension over the steam is because when the
plant is running and the steam has exhausted to the separator tank and vents up the pipe there is a small amount of spitting
and I want this to land on the Polished canopy and not on the boat and plant itself which would mean more work cleaning it off.
I know its only a small detail but as I go along I try to iron out any problems and get it looking right too.

So please keep the comments coming and I will make a note and incorporate them as I continue the build OK.
Cheers for now

awesome shape of the boat! imagine night sailing with a little light bulb inside the cabin - the boat will look absolutely stunning!

[ROSYTH]

Thanks Weeds for the comment, glad you like it.
The idea of lights/lighting is one I am going to fit, so your cabin point will be implemented in a bigger way though.
Have you seen those LED Units in B&Q i think they have three bulbs but small one's and they are in a round plastic housing unit that you peel the back off
and stick to a wall!! Then by pressing on it it lights up, well they are just the right size and will allow me to fit one to the Ceiling of the cabin and light it up
that way which will look interesting on the pond when dark.
I will off course be fitting navigation lights as usual which enhance a model and give it the right look too.

Thanks again and keep 'em coming I like it a lot.

Cheers and now back to work but first I have to clear a path to the bolt hole of Snow, yes SNOW a little early and I hope it don't last either.

I will post some more pics maybe Monday evening ok.

[Bunkerbarge]

There is just one issue with that type of lighting Rosythe and that is that LED's give off a very blue coloured light, which could look quite unrealistic in such a period model.  I know the units you mean, I have one in a cupboard, so I would test one out first before committing to fitting it.

[ROSYTH]

I know what you mean now about the blue light syndrome as I switched of the lights in the garage and lit the cab up with one of those units.
It does look a little blue, but I think I could get away with it as it won't be on for long periods of time and just to view the interior cabin itself.

I have been doing some of the fiddly work just of late and well here are some more pics to show the progress so far. It is going to be a long job
indeed as I really want to make this one look the part and move right on the water.
So any feedback is always welcome and thanks.

Enjoy

[OMK]

What a gorgeous boat. Throw that man another Golden Virginia!
Just out of curiosity, is that a Titan bandsaw there?

By the by, have you considered those so-called surface-mount LEDs? Some give a much better white glow than their counterparts.

[ROSYTH]

Cheers PMK, thanks for the comment it's appreciated.
I must learn to take tighter shots in future......  lol there's always something of interest in the background don't you think.

The Bandsaw isn't a Titan sadly but a Clarke and ideal for the hobbyist doing small one of jobs like me.
I have had it about a year and bought it for 30 quid from a chap who used it once, again for a small job then he just put it on the shelf
in the garage and covered it up, until I said i was after one myself so there it is. It goes nicely with the Clarke Fret saw next to it and the
Clarke Sander for when those cuts just need straightening up a little lol.

Have you any projects on the go or just finished? why not add a few pics for all to see........
Re the surface mounted LED's, my younger brother just called round with 2 small round units he had left over from fitting his kitchen out.
He was using them to go under his wall mounted units to light up the worktop area at night and these were left over and thought I could use
them to place behind the Launch when on the display stand I have yet to make. I thought it was a good idea too, so when the lounge lights get
dimmed or turned off you simply click them on and hey presto atmospheric lighting of the boat on the sideboard.
Oh forget the Golden Virginia, I am partial to Old Holborn.................lol.
More photos later in the week as i am doing the time consuming detail which is monotonous to say the least. In fact I do wonder where the time
goes when I am in the garage as I seem to have very little to show for say 5-7 hours doing it, you know the feeling I guess.

Cheers for now

[OMK]

You no like Golden Virginia? Oh, in that case my mince pies are deceiving me (grok photos #4, #8 and #9)
Give yourself a pat on the back for landing such a neat deal on the bandsaw. There's nothing wrong with Clarke machines. You're doing some pretty slick work with it - the proof is right there in the photos. In fact, I'd wager that your Clarke probably rolled off the same production line as every other half-decent bandsaw, albeit badged under a different name, is all.

"Have you any projects on the go?............."

Ever heard of Sea Queen? Thanks to Doug '99 sending me a copy of his plans, S'Queen is very much high priority on the to-do list. I have a workshop to prepare first, so when that's done, keep your eyes peeled for a few photos.

Enough already - I've taken too much of your time.
Looking forward to seeing more of your work with the launch......................

[Weeds]

Checkered floor haha - you are an interior designer as well!


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[Bernhard]

Hi...cliff
Take a look here,,,,maby you can get some ides
regards Bernhard
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=893692                                     

[ROSYTH]

Thanks for the links folks, I will have a look when I can.
For now though I thought I would just add a few more pics of the progress on the build, sorry for the long delay but have been busy doing the house
and 'er 'indoors comes first as we all know then the dogs and kids and finally me.

I still have a long way to go as you will see but for now it is taking shape thank goodness and starting to look something like the launch I want to achieve.

Any comments please fire away as usual and I have added a couple of the boat in darkness but with the Cabin lit up for those that wanted to see it.

thanks again.

[mook]

love it, must go we have a honeymoon to complete       

[GeorgeGreek]

Regretfully my English is not good enough to express my admiration for your boat...

George