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[Tachikaze]

  I am not so concerned about the size of the boat that can be accommodated, our course is set up such that the 1/72nd Bismark that shows up can run it. And we usually have two boats on the course at the same time.
 What I am looking for is some judging standard that can be used on different courses, at different locations, being judge by different people. In this way we can have a regional competition, at several locations, tally the results and determine who, from the various locations, won.

[Netleyned]

Different Locations
Different Courses
Different Judges
Different Opinions
Different Winners
Too many differences

Ned

[Liverbudgie2]

Nice to see this subject being raised again! Having just re-read the whole thread I must admit that, at least as far as Tynemouth is concerned, it's all still much as it ever was. One dinky little boat at a time going the rounds. Notwithstanding the dreadful weed problem that has severely curtailed our activities for the last 2 seasons, the popularity of this sort of competition seems to have waned considerably.
     What models do take part remain little ones. If a course was laid out to accomodate large models then even I might join in ( to me and a few others even 4ft is not a "large" model! Also, I'm still against the "one model at a time" business...and would still like to see the "driver" free to shift conning positions.
     As far as buoyage is concerned there doesn't seem to be any difficulty with simply having (for instance) red and green ones. One way around the track keep the green ones to starboard, and if going the other way round keep the red ones to starboard. So 2 ships going in opposite directions could be fun. BY.

Bryan,
Far to complicated for most of this lot I'm afraid. They are far and away happier sailing between markers forwards, backwards, in figure of eight and in making manoeuvres’ that if the subjects was a real vessel it would have to be split in to several sections to accomplish.

  It has been tried before of course but the moans, oh the moans! Just made it a depressing exercise. The only event that comes close to this the warship day at Stoke,  were navigation rules are rigorously upheld.

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

Different Locations
Different Courses
Different Judges
Different Opinions
Different Winners
Too many differences

Ned

How does Formula 1 bring all the points together to come up with a winner at the end of the season?

Is there a standard static scale judging standard?

[Tachikaze]

  Did you not have at one time some scoring sheets for static judging?

[Colin Bishop]

I know I've said this before but instead of trying to reinvent the wheel why not use, or adapt the MPBA guidelines: http://www.mpba.org.uk/Section_pages/scale.html

A lot of effort has gone into formulating and evolving these in practical situations and they do actually work!

Colin

[ZZ56]

What if you awarded bonus points for navigating the course at "an appropriate speed for each type of model"?  You aren't forcing anybody to drive outside of their comfort zone, but you are giving the larger models a bonus for navigating the somewhat-congested courses at a sedate speed. 

If you have a large enough venue, why not scrap the mid-water course entirely?  Have a couple of harbours with approaches and channels and docks, and have members conduct their vessel as if they were the skipper of the real thing.  Most people can learn the very basic rules of the maritime roads, like 'red right returning' and who has right-of-way, and then you'll have people having to plan their own routes based on traffic and actually talk to the other skippers to ask which side they'd like to pass on or when a dock will be free.

I'd really like to haul my boats to Andy Haydon Park in Ottawa sometime.  If you Google Earth it, looks like there's two ponds separated by a channel with an island in it, and walking trails all around.  I know there's a club there but i don't know if they are allowed to use the whole watercourse for their steering matches. 

[Colin Bishop]

What if you awarded bonus points for navigating the course at "an appropriate speed for each type of model"?  You aren't forcing anybody to drive outside of their comfort zone, but you are giving the larger models a bonus for navigating the somewhat-congested courses at a sedate speed. 

Then you are introducing something which can't me measured and which requires subjective judgement on the part of the judges, no two of whom will have precisely the same ideas. Also, the judge must have some idea of how the full size ship handles having seen it in action. Some ships are surprisingly sprightly in reality - Greek car ferries backing up to a quay for example!

Incidentally buoyage systems in North America differ from the rest of the wold. For everybody else the red buoys are left to port and green ones to starboard when entering harbour....

Colin

[Le Caux Deux]

Have a look at the chatter here the whole idea of Competitive sailing seams to be getting knocked unfortunately

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=27982.0

I don't see why one can't develop some form of handicap system which could level the playing field to some degree and is discussed briefly in this link.

by the way where are you based Techikaze

Mike