Topic: Armidale class Patrol Boats (Read 20337 times)

Peter Fitness · « **Reply #25 on:** November 15, 2007, 10:25:21 pm »

Thanks to some info provided by Martin13, I have been in touch with the secretary of the Surrey Park Model Boat Club in Melbourne. He has given me the contact details for one of their members, Phil Clarke, who has built a magnificent model of HMAS Armidale, a photo of which is attached. Apparently Phil was given access to one of the class, and took numerous photos of both the interior and exterior, the result of which enabled him to build a great model, as I am sure you will all agree, especially when it is compared with the full size vessel.

I plan to ring Phil soon, and find out as much as I can about his build.
A big "Thank you" to Martin, and Ken Burge, secretary of the SPMBC, for taking the time to provide the info.
Peter.

Shipmate60 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 15, 2007, 10:32:51 pm »

Peter,
She does look good, what scale is she?

Bob

Peter Fitness · « **Reply #27 on:** November 16, 2007, 01:01:05 am »

Bob, I don't know what scale she is, but will find out once I speak to the builder.
Peter.

Martin13 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 16, 2007, 09:13:17 am »

Bob,

A 1/72 scale version is 774mm long. The photo of the model at spmbc is about 1200mm long and looks even better in the flesh.

Martin
spmbc

RipSlider · « **Reply #29 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:31:56 pm »

Now that is an awesome looking boat!!!

Don't care whether it's scale or full size, the lines and design are brilliant.

I'm guessing that you've already recieved a load of PM's on the subject, but I wonder if you would ask the builder if it's possible to get a set of plans that you could post or let people have a copy of ( like me!!

) or if you would consider releasing your own plans if you make any changes?

If you or the original builder would be willing, I would be more than happy to cover costs involved in getting the original plans fully tidied up by a draughtsman and then have them produce electronic copies for distribution. Would also cover the cost of having Autocad files created, as would utilise them myself.

Steve

Martin13 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 13, 2007, 12:22:19 pm »

Hi Peter,

Guess what arrived in the mail yesterday :angel:

1 x GRP Armidale Hull - 770mm long including profile, plan and sectional drawings - NO hull/frame line drawings.

I must admit - the man did a beautiful job on the hull, it is IMPRESSIVE

Now all we have to do is try and con some one to stretch it

I have the builders approval to do so, cos he ain't got the time

Martin doon under

colin-stevens · « **Reply #31 on:** December 13, 2007, 05:33:22 pm »

Er, why do you need to stretch it? have i missed something?
any way, enjoy.
colin

Martin13 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 13, 2007, 08:02:50 pm »

Quote from: colin-stevens on December 13, 2007, 05:33:22 pm

Er, why do you need to stretch it? have i missed something?
any way, enjoy.
colin

Hi Colin,

The hull has been made to 1:72 scale. I wish to build at 1:32 or 1:24 scale, to match my other patrol boats.....
I only purchased the hull to use as a template..

Martin

colin-stevens · « **Reply #33 on:** December 13, 2007, 08:06:19 pm »

ah, brave man. even more fun on its way for you then.
enjoy

Peter Fitness · « **Reply #34 on:** December 13, 2007, 10:17:21 pm »

Hi Martin,
Those frame drawings are elusive, aren't they? Let me know how you go with the enlargement.
Peter.

Martin13 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 14, 2007, 06:01:05 am »

Quote from: peterfitness on December 13, 2007, 10:17:21 pm

Hi Martin,
Those frame drawings are elusive, aren't they? Let me know how you go with the enlargement.
Peter.

G'Day Peter,
Yeah, I'll say they are, currently chasing a lead to have the GRP hull scaled up. The deal being if someone can make the hull/frame line drawings - they get to keep the GRP hull and plans and I cover all costs....I think its a fair deal :)

The things we are willing to do in order to build a model

Martin

Peter Fitness · « **Reply #36 on:** December 14, 2007, 09:02:37 pm »

Martin, it's called dedication............or something ::) Some might even call it madness :) However, I prefer to think of it as persistence, in search of an ideal

Peter.

Martin13 · « **Reply #37 on:** December 15, 2007, 04:48:15 am »

Quote from: Peter Fitness on December 14, 2007, 09:02:37 pm

Martin, it's called dedication............or something ::) Some might even call it madness :) However, I prefer to think of it as persistence, in search of an ideal
Peter.

Peter,

100% CORRECT

Although I think its approaching lunacy

Martin

Circlip · « **Reply #38 on:** December 15, 2007, 05:52:44 am »

If your happy that the hull lines and shape are "correct" then one way to achieve enlargement is to have the hull Digitised,seen it on Discovery/American chopper, 3d shape follower?

Martin13 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 15, 2007, 06:38:14 am »

Quote from: Circlip on December 15, 2007, 05:52:44 am

If your happy that the hull lines and shape are "correct" then one way to achieve enlargement is to have the hull Digitised,seen it on Discovery/American chopper, 3d shape follower?

please explain :-\

Martin

Circlip · « **Reply #40 on:** December 15, 2007, 07:35:59 am »

This isn't a sledgehammer to crack a Wallnut but using a Steamhammer. What they were doing was using a table with a positionable stylus, A 3D inspection machine? to trace/follow points on a bike frame, to put them into a design programme to modify. Once in the dark archives of these things, you can - have scaled drawings generated, - have a scaled Foam blank CNC'd, but it depends on accuracy of original and mates rates for digitising?
Ian

RipSlider · « **Reply #41 on:** December 15, 2007, 11:58:46 am »

I'm martins secret contact in the UK getting the hull 3d work sorted out for him...

what's going to happen is similar, but a little more precise. Work is being done by the same group that is working on my earthrace model.

Essentially, the hull will get bolted down to a huge steel table in such a way to allow zero movement. They they use 2x steroscopic 3d scanners ( essenially, a device which shines a laser in a scanning pattern and a photo detector that picks up the laser's scatter. each device uses 2x lasers and detectors to allow depth to be captured, and there are 2 scanners, therefore allowing for 4 laser beams, and better resolution. )

This data gets imported into some form of CAD system - quote "AutoCAD is a very crude system for what we do - we abandoned it years ago..."(!!!) and turned into a 3d model. This can then get chopped about, and turned into 2d plans

depending on the number of passes that they do, they will guarantee an accuracy of between 0.1mm ( 1 pass) and ten microns ( 4 passes) although more passes = more money.

steve

Circlip · « **Reply #42 on:** December 15, 2007, 12:14:51 pm »

You COULD have saved MY brain cells @ 6.38 this morning,WHERE were you?

Bet you nodded off

Oh the passage of time, where were the smug b-----s 30 odd years ago when we only had Autocad? LUCAS has got a lot to answer for. Didn't know you were involved RIP, Supertech. would have thought it wouldn't cost much more for a blank to be cut out in OZ? surfboard manufacturers out there? ONCE like you say it's digitised.

RipSlider · « **Reply #43 on:** December 15, 2007, 01:39:41 pm »

I was asleep at 5am. Early night

Martin13 · « **Reply #44 on:** December 15, 2007, 02:32:21 pm »

Quote from: RipSlider on December 15, 2007, 11:58:46 am

I'm martins secret contact in the UK getting the hull 3d work sorted out for him...

steve

Damm >:( the cat's out of the bag now

Martin :angel:

Peter Fitness · « **Reply #45 on:** June 01, 2009, 01:32:00 am »

As you can see from the dates on the previous posts, much time has elapsed since I started this thread but, as the Walrus said "The time has come" etc, etc, etc. (Alice in Wonderland)

The Lennox Head building slips have been cleared with the launch of my Grand Banks cruiser, and I now have enough information to start on this project, albeit without any official frame data. However, I have been able to plot the frames from the drawings and photos I have, courtesy of Martin doon under and others.

The first tentative steps have been taken, and I now have to start cutting. Progress, if any, will be reported here, so watch this space.

Peter.

Captain Jack · « **Reply #46 on:** June 16, 2009, 05:49:39 pm »

Quote from: Martin doon under on December 13, 2007, 12:22:19 pm

Hi Peter,

Guess what arrived in the mail yesterday :angel:

1 x GRP Armidale Hull - 770mm long including profile, plan and sectional drawings - NO hull/frame line drawings.

I must admit - the man did a beautiful job on the hull, it is IMPRESSIVE

Now all we have to do is try and con some one to stretch it I have the builders approval to do so, cos he ain't got the time

Martin doon under

OK< ok, Ok, I'm perfectly happy with a 1:72 scale version!!!!! Where can I get the hull and plans? How much money do I have to mortgage on my house to get them?

Proteus · « **Reply #47 on:** June 17, 2009, 02:04:41 am »

Peter Is that the class of boat in the series SEA PATROLE 2nd series, I believe it came from your shores, I think it was bundled with Water rats. or Bluey mk 2

Proteus

Peter Fitness · « **Reply #48 on:** June 17, 2009, 07:55:19 am »

Yes, Proteus, it certainly is. Several different members of the class are used in the making of the TV series - we are on series 3 on Australian television now. The boat used in Series 1 was a Fremantle Class patrol boat, all of which have now been retired from the Royal Australian Navy, and replaced by the Armidale class, as used in Series 2 & 3.

More info here http://www.navy.gov.au/Armidale_Class

The name given to both vessels in the TV series, HMAS Hammersley, is fictional, there is no boat by that name in the RAN.

Peter.

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