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Flyerjeff

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Thames steam launch
« on: August 04, 2010, 12:33:11 pm »


I keep seeing Bernhards beautiful work and would like to try and build a boat myself, my question if you could help, is the quality of this kit?  Does any have a suggestion about this kit for a first timer?

Thanks for your Help

http://www.loyalhannadockyard.com/KMTHAMES.htm
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benjaml1

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 01:32:11 pm »

A shallow draught, narrow beam with elevated topwork makes this type of model prone to rolling, (especially on a windy day) unless a false keel is used...

Just one mans opinion though, I'm not an expert.... :embarrassed:
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steamboatmodel

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 01:52:06 pm »

Keep the top weight down and use lead sheeting in the bottom of the hull and you will have no problem.
Regards,
Gerald.
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Proteus

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 03:56:01 pm »

the KM in the name stands for Kingston Mouldings , it a well tried boat with steam plants, lots of them about.

Proteus
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gondolier88

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 04:18:47 pm »

The model is based on Saunder's made, copper-stitch hulled launch 'Victoria'.

Greg
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Patternmaker

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 09:08:25 pm »

How about this one. Thames Steam Launch Miranda
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Flyerjeff

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 09:32:01 pm »


Beautiful

Thanks for all the advice.
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benjaml1

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 12:13:56 pm »

Keep the top weight down and use lead sheeting in the bottom of the hull and you will have no problem.
Regards,
Gerald.

Excellent advice.... :-))
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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 01:01:58 pm »

My late fathers Thames steam launch, 5ft long based on the waterlilly that was at the NMM (now moved to Falmouth----boat not the NMM), he spent months crawling all over it to produce the drawings. Launched about 4 months before Basil's Miranda. POF with a single cylinder double acting steam plant. As has been sail a little weight right in the bilges, and its just right.
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Flyerjeff

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 01:44:11 pm »

You guys are killing me with all these Beautiful boats.
The craftsmanship is Superb with so much detail I keep waiting for a persons head to pop out.
Thanks for the inspiration, I’ll need it.
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steamboatmodel

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 12:38:52 am »

Just to show that they all aren't perfect, here is my Lily
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Flyerjeff

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2010, 01:00:38 am »

Just to show that they all aren't perfect, here is my Lily

Nice looking boat to me.
Got some thinking to do, thanks for all the replies!
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Chuffy

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2010, 08:58:06 am »

Re the last post by Bernhard of the launch 'Lady Ann' that is on Ebay. I have one just like it with the same boiler and engine sitting on my shelf waiting for a complete overhaul. Does any one have any idea of the kit manufacturer and the maker of the boiler and engine. I have contacted the vendor but have not had a lot of luck in the past with this sort of enquiry of items on Ebay.

Any help would be much appreciated

Paul.
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Underpressure

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 02:03:09 pm »

Lady Ann and the plant were supplied by Modeen, who were based in Oldham, Lancs. The owner was (is) Ron Needham.

The boiler is the Crompton and the engine the Super Minitwin.

They may still be about, but they don't appear to have a web site.
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Flyerjeff

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 06:29:29 pm »

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Chuffy

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2010, 08:53:02 am »

Many thanks to Underpressure and Jeffwnc for your posts and would you believe it but the vendor on bay got in touch with me also!

He purchased the complete kit from Ron Needham back in the 80's for the sum of £238.00.

With the information I now have I think I can find out a lot more about the kit , steam plant and of course the man who made it, which I think is half the fun of restoring an old boat.

Once again many thanks  to you all.

If any of you can come up with any gems of information please keep me posted.

Paul.
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Underpressure

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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2010, 09:02:33 am »

The engine has a 5/16" bore and 5/8" stroke. Working pressure is 15 psi and it is 3 1/2" high x 2 1/2" long x 1 1/2" wide.

The boiler is 6" long and 2" dia. The safety is set to 30 psi and the burner uses meths.

Oh and before anybody thinks I have a phenominal memory, I don't. But I DO have the Modeen catalogue from around that time  O0
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Re: Thames steam launch
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2010, 10:01:56 am »

Jeff, it appears that the Loyalhanna listings are hulls from Kingston Mouldings. It may be that they sell other makers products as well of course but you can see all the Kingston range, check prices and shipping costs at http://www.kingstonmouldings.com/home.htm
It might be that it is more economical from the shipping point of view for you to order from Loyalhanna but you can check that out by talking to Robin at Kingston. He has certainly treated me well when it came to shipping to this part of the world. Cheers, Ian.
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