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[Capitaine LaGaffe]

Is it just be being more than usually stupid, or …? I've found pictures of the most inspiring French pusher tugs (of the low-profile, go under low bridges persuasion), but one of things that confuses this newbie is where the navigation lights go when there is no mast. Where do the lights that one usually finds  in the mast – the two or three white lights and the red, white, red all round ones – go when there is no mast? With working lights, it rather obvious if one fouls up, so …

Thanks/T

[Bryan Young]

How about "mast up" when not going under a bridge? BY.

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

How about "mast up" when not going under a bridge? BY.

Even then, I can understand Capitaine LaGaffe's confusion, the light bars on the retractable masts are
often horizontal, and the lights are arranged across that bar.

What would be the standard configuration? 

[Bryan Young]

How about a hinge? And towing lights are in a vertical line. BY

[tolnedra]

How about the fact that they tend to be only in restricted waters, and therefore tend to moor for the night, rather than push on blindly, therefore no need for navigation lights? Just a thought.

Danny

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

How about a hinge? And towing lights are in a vertical line. BY

I know you think you know what I am saying, but what I am saying, is that the light bars are horizontal...  

The lights are arranged on the cross bar horizontally. And will be horizontal even in the raised position.

View Jack's images here...

http://modeltugforum.com/index.php?topic=640.0

 

[Capitaine LaGaffe]

To add to the confusion, I recently bought the MRB plan of Aramis and it has three white lights arranged in a triangle on the front of the wheelhouse and on the starboard side two small lights red & white and on the port side a small red light. Hein?! I do wonder which of the three white lights are lit for tows of less than 200 m (or whatever it is).

If I copy the Aramis arrangement (ignoring the small lights), I at least can't be accused of being completely unrealistic …

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

I can consitently spot three lamps on a horizontal bar at the stern, but I do not see
any that might constitute a triangle on the bow.

[sailorboy61]

When fastened to a unit being pushed, the two parts become one 'composite' unit....it is lit as a single ship....... there is there requirement for towing lights (it isn't towing).....only for a ship of an equivalent size, likewise without the 'push' ahead, it's only a small boat........ similarly for the red/white/red..... should it consider itself 'restricted', then they must be displayed where best possible given consideration of the construction.... which may include the requirement to raise the mast and have the R/W/R on a portable halyard arrangement perhaps? However, the definition of restricted relates to nature of work, which includes towing, but as mentioned, a pusher is not a tow/towing vessels and I suppose technically cannot be 'restricted'

[Capitaine LaGaffe]

I've seen the light P'haps not, but I've found an explanation of the three lights in a triangular pattern, or rather two: http://www.ddr-binnenschifffahrt.de/symbolefarben-005.htm („Lichterführung auf Schubverbänden‟) and Algemeen Politiereglement voor de Scheepvaart op de Binnenwateren, http://grootvaarbewijs.nl/GrootVaarbewijs.nl/Overigen_files/FOMV%20Vaarregels%20in%20Beeld%20Belgie.pdf, p 8 (there is a French version somewhere: I misplaced the URL during my mad googling). Interesting with three stern lights. Rivers seem to be different.

[Umi_Ryuzuki]

Capitaine LaGaffe,

Those are very helpful, and explain a lot, including the three lights on the horizontal bar at the stern.