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victorian

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Steamship 'Sargasso'
« on: November 25, 2010, 12:18:11 pm »

A friend of mine, a very experienced model engineer, is researching the 1908 steamer 'Sargasso' as a first model boat project. He intends to build a triple expansion engine for it.

'Sargasso' was built for the Scrutton line by J Redfern & Co of South Sheilds and survived under Italian ownership until 1943 when she was (we believe) sunk by the RAF. She was raised and further damaged being scrapped in 1947.

My friend had a relative who sailed in her and here is a painting that's been passed down to him:




So far enquiries with Tyne & Wear archives and local libraries have drawn a blank. What we need are obviously any surviving plans, but failing that, lines for any similar ship that would act as a guide or any other information that would help. There are a few photographs on the Internet, but ships of this type and period are not well covered in the literature. Any information would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Steamship 'Sargasso'
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2010, 04:53:32 pm »

found a reference to it #406 (bottom of the chart) on the list here http://www.johnbage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/John%20Readhead%20Shipyard%20Page%205.htm



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Re: Steamship 'Sargasso'
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2010, 06:04:13 pm »

Hello, Have you tried World Ship Soc ?  Nemesis
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Re: Steamship 'Sargasso'
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2010, 06:20:03 pm »

When was she built? If it was around the turn of the century then she appears to be quite typical of her time. The deck gear might be another matter.
If it's of any interest at all, it may be worth mentioning that although many innovations were coming into the shipbuilding world, much hull, superstructure and cargo handling gear wasn't. I think that then, as now, the owners felt disinclined to spend money on improving tried and tested stuff. But the improvements in the propulsion and other mechanical aspects of a ship could lead to great financial savings. So the ships tended to look the same as all the others even though they may have radically new stuff hidden away inside them. BY.
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victorian

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Re: Steamship 'Sargasso'
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2010, 09:20:28 pm »

Thanks for the comments. She was built in 1908. Regarding the deck gear, I've found this photo on a site called Alger-roi showing her in the '20s, when she was called 'Laurent Schiaffino'.

She is described as a 'Spar Deck' steamer, which I believe is to do with having a promenade deck for her passenger accomodation

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Re: Steamship 'Sargasso'
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 09:38:51 pm »

seen that photo over at model boat world forum, not having much luck there either?
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Re: Steamship 'Sargasso'
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 10:53:16 pm »

Thanks for the comments. She was built in 1908. Regarding the deck gear, I've found this photo on a site called Alger-roi showing her in the '20s, when she was called 'Laurent Schiaffino'.

She is described as a 'Spar Deck' steamer, which I believe is to do with having a promenade deck for her passenger accomodation


I don't think that the term "Spar Deck" had anything to do with passengers. Memory fading a little, but obscure tonnage rules come to mind. BY.
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