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Wvkoolaid

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twin screw 100 mm props how much thrust @ 3000 rpm ?
« on: October 08, 2011, 08:02:46 pm »


  I intend to use two 100 mm oppossing props with korts on a towboat for lake operations. Why so big, I intended to push a few things and have barges big enough for a cooler.  I would like to know what thrust I could expect to get at around 3000 rpm the motors I have found tend to be in that range for max rpm.
   The lake I go to has some curennt in places and some times the wind is moving pretty good which is great for my sail boats but not so much for small under powered models. The lakes around me are over 1/2 km long so there is alot of room to play in.
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wartsilaone

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Re: twin screw 100 mm props how much thrust @ 3000 rpm ?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2011, 10:08:36 pm »

Hi there. I'm not sure anyone will be able to give you a definitive answer on that one. If you have a Newton meter maybe you could conduct a Bollard pull test once you have installed the props. I'd be interested to see how you get on.

 Kind Regards Ali.



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derekwarner

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Re: twin screw 100 mm props how much thrust @ 3000 rpm ?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2011, 11:34:55 pm »

Wv....

1. the actual thrust of your model tug will be dependent on the installed power of the motor/s..... [for electric model applications ......in watts {750W = 1 HP}..... {1000W is a kilowatt}]
2. however this is input power & has litte reference to vessel thrust
3. propeller pitch also comes into the equation
4. the actual mass or displacement of the vessel is of little significance here
5. if you are measuring thrust as shown in your image [vessel pulling ASTERN] the underwater shape of the hull has a bearing as we experience the ineffiency of pushing water around the hull shape
6. if you were measuring thrust when towing [AHEAD] the hull shape is to some what ~~~~~is negated
7. for model applications... a suitably sized simple fish weighing scales dead headed to your vessel with the motors @ a known RPM will confirm the actual vessel thrust in {lbs} or {kg}
8. working backwards  %%...lets consider thrust in this case as a static test.....not dynamic ....... :o  as vesssel speed is not being considered
9. naturally limiting or reducing the motor RPM will reduce the vessel thrust........... O0

I hope this helps....keep us posted.... :-)) .....Derek
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Re: twin screw 100 mm props how much thrust @ 3000 rpm ?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2011, 12:56:14 am »

http://www.ig-spezialschiffe.net/Crew-pages/M_TLuehr_IN.html

Fellow in this link has a tug with twin 4" props and says it has a bollard pull of twenty pounds.  There are some other photos of it I can't find, towing a big rubber raft with half a dozen people in it at a fair speed. 
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