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[dodgy geezer]

Now this surprised me.  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RAF-Crash-Tender-Model-Boat-Kit-Vintage-/170580572689?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item27b764fa11

I thought that Jotika was quite close to producing their own Aerokits Crash Tender from original plans...? My experience is that Lesro are not always the cheapest, but they seem to be out first with this best-seller....

[red181]

The performance of this newly-produced model has, after exhaustive experiment and testing, proven to be extremely fast and exciting on the water if fitted with an appropriate motor and compatible equipment.

taken from the description, I would be interested to know what "exhaustive testing" was done, and what the outcome was to achieve the "extremely fast" performance as I dont think any radio gear or motor etc is included, no mention of brushed or brushless etc,

The 4 footer Aerokits has a lot of prescence on the water and is a nice looking boat

[HS93 (RIP)]

Now this surprised me.  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RAF-Crash-Tender-Model-Boat-Kit-Vintage-/170580572689?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN&hash=item27b764fa11

I thought that Jotika was quite close to producing their own Aerokits Crash Tender from original plans...? My experience is that Lesro are not always the cheapest, but they seem to be out first with this best-seller....

the picture looks very  much like the boat that was being sold for he last few years from the Vintage Model Workshop group , just because someone is building a firefloat Mk2 does not mean it has anything to do with the old Aerokits one , it is a model of a  real boat. you can tell its not an Aerokits by the shape of the front roof .
good on them anyway,  people have waited about for years paying silly money  and spending hours re building, having said that some people prefer to do that than start from scratch they probably get a real buzz to see the nicely re built boat and think back what a shed it was.

peter

 

[HS93 (RIP)]

taken from the description, I would be interested to know what "exhaustive testing" was done, and what the outcome was to achieve the "extremely fast" performance as I dont think any radio gear or motor etc is included, no mention of brushed or brushless etc,

The 4 footer Aerokits has a lot of prescence on the water and is a nice looking boat

Paul don't you have a static model of one, have you ever thought of towing it around the lake?

peter

[dodgy geezer]

the picture looks very  much like the boat that was being sold for he last few years from the Vintage Model Workshop group , just because someone is building a firefloat Mk2 does not mean it has anything to do with the old Aerokits one ...

I just assumed it might be connected given Les Rowell designed the original Aerokits 46" model, and Lesro models had been selling the Aerokits plans recently (though I never said it was the Aerokits one  ). I know Jotika are in the process of putting out an Aerokits Tender. Looking at the kit I see "A 1950s revival kit from VMW" written on the box, so it seems likely that it is the Vintage Model Workshop one. Do VMW have a website?

[HS93 (RIP)]

I just assumed it might be connected given Les Rowell designed the original Aerokits 46" model, and Lesro models had been selling the Aerokits plans recently (though I never said it was the Aerokits one  ). I know Jotika are in the process of putting out an Aerokits Tender. Looking at the kit I see "A 1950s revival kit from VMW" written on the box, so it seems likely that it is the Vintage Model Workshop one. Do VMW have a website?

No I didn't think for a moment that you thought it was a aerokits you are one of the people who have been dispelling that myth by putting plans together. I have built many aerokits fire boats over the years and am less and less a fan of the construction methods used so if someone comes up with another way of kiting one great. there is a chap Mike Cummings connected to it that comes on hear and on the Fireboat web site
there  is a phone number hear but don't know of a web site
http://modelfireboats.com/photogallery/view.php?gallery=1&page=5

Peter

[dbninja]

mmmm

£280 


dont think they will be racing off the shelf


db

[Dekan]

the picture looks very  much like the boat that was being sold for he last few years from the Vintage Model Workshop group , just because someone is building a firefloat Mk2 does not mean it has anything to do with the old Aerokits one , it is a model of a  real boat. you can tell its not an Aerokits by the shape of the front roof .
good on them anyway,  people have waited about for years paying silly money  and spending hours re building, having said that some people prefer to do that than start from scratch they probably get a real buzz to see the nicely re built boat and think back what a shed it was.

peter

 

Certainly looks like the box of a Mike Cummngs kit... I have seen old and very banged about 34" fireboat sold for £150...
Maybe its about time somebody started a Vintage model boat society.... like SAM for model aircraft....

[rathikrishna]

Thank you all friends..for the nice discussion...its an inspiring craft..i compleated one inspired by this craft...see a nice video here..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fImQzDac3WQ   its my fire tender...

[Dekan]

Thank you all friends..for the nice discussion...its an inspiring craft..i compleated one inspired by this craft...see a nice video here..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fImQzDac3WQ   its my fire tender...

TeHee it's Fireman Sams...without the wheels

[dbninja]

Certainly looks like the box of a Mike Cummngs kit... I have seen old and very banged about 34" fireboat sold for £150...


Maybe its about time somebody started a Vintage model boat society.... like SAM for model aircraft....

as one or two contributers to this thread know.. we do have our own dedicated website for the fireboat (and other boats of the era) and its growing at quite a rate with nearly 1200 members

checkout       http://modelfireboats.com/

its got a great photo and video gallery, and lots of usefull information  for all, we have "fireboat fundays" too

db
db, your link didn't work, this one does.

Bob

[rathikrishna]

 thank you dbninja...

[ukboats]

I thought I would start renovating a 46" Aero-kits Crash Tender that has been sitting around far too long seeing that Lesro are now offering them at a premium price. Question:- anyone got a 46" version as I need some advice regarding the power plant. IC is out, not allowed on the pond - scares the horses!! I would prefer brushed as the brushless set up seems a bit hit and miss. I tried brushless in another boat but could not for the life of me get the thing to go. Something about programming the bits together. So a challenge, a brushed motor set up that will make the boat go and plane well at speed. Appreciate any advice available. Thanks

[red181]

Hi, go to the fireboat website, there is a section regarding set ups, plenty of info there, and some videos of the boats running. I will soon be starting my renovation of a 4 footer, and plan twin brushless, you could also use the 900 size brushed motors, big and heavy, depends how fast you want it to go really

[regiment]

i have a aerokit fire boat wt is about 25 lbs fitted with a 12 volt 12 amp battery with a 700 motor z\   good bow wave and speed duration a good 3 hours  better than 10 minutes speeding  ?? no

[red181]

i have a aerokit fire boat wt is about 25 lbs fitted with a 12 volt 12 amp battery with a 700 motor z\   good bow wave and speed duration a good 3 hours  better than 10 minutes speeding  ?? no

thats a matter of opinion,  :}I would much rather have 10 minutes of speed,

[HS93 (RIP)]

i have a aerokit fire boat wt is about 25 lbs fitted with a 12 volt 12 amp battery with a 700 motor z\   good bow wave and speed duration a good 3 hours  better than 10 minutes speeding  ?? no

So you can make a 25lb boat plane on 4 amps.?

peter

[regiment]

I DID NOT SAY IT PLANED BUT HAD A NICE BOW WAVE  AND AT 80 YEARS OLD CANNOT SEE THE POINT OF PULLING IT QTR OF A MILE  FOR 10 MINS OF SPEED WHEN I CAN NEARLY GET 3 HRS OF ENJOYMENT OUT OF IT. NOW THAT THE SUN IS SHINING HERE IN CORNWALL

[HS93 (RIP)]

Ok for a start who said we get ten minutes ? and if you look at the video of the full size boat and the way they perform and the amount they are out of the water it is nice to try and copy, on an average run we can get 25min with varied but fast speeds, after that we play with a slow boat while the batteries charge or are changed.

[regiment]

by the time i have pulled the boat no energy to carry a spare battery or charger as i said quite happy to poddle around at a slow speed  i1 8 1 said he wourld rather have 10 mins at speed  any how went to the lake to day a very nice couple of hours with my boat sun was out couple of my old mates as well what more can we ask for

[Circlip]

Shame on you Regiment, what right have you to dictate how you get enjoyment out of your model?   Everyone knows that the fire tender always hurtled about like a scalded cat.

  Jankers for you sir, spud bashing at the cookhouse for the next five days  

  Regards  Ian.

[regiment]

funny you say that about spud bashing as an ex cpl raf cook i was the one detailing brats ? for spud bashing good job in this weather  nice and warm in the cookhouse any how if my boat went faster than 2 mph would not be able to catch it looks like i have upset the speedsters oh dear  i will hold my hand out for a smack

[bat44]

hi ukboats how about using a 850 motor with 50mm prop on 12volt is a good place to start

                                                  bat44

[HS93 (RIP)]

Shame on you Regiment, what right have you to dictate how you get enjoyment out of your model?   Everyone knows that the fire tender always hurtled about like a scalded cat.

  Jankers for you sir, spud bashing at the cookhouse for the next five days  

  Regards  Ian.

I see you never miss an opportunity.

[rathikrishna]

thanks for the nice pictures...