Topic: HMS bold path finder conversion to HMS bold pursuer (Read 12184 times)

ben hall · « **on:** January 19, 2011, 11:57:01 am »

this was originals a re-fit for my first navel boat HMS bold pathfinder but some one was selling a mmi that had a plan for her sister ship HMS bold pursuer so it turned in to a conversion which im hoping to be ready for the display i brought it in febuary at midurst annual modellers expedition

ben hall · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2011, 12:47:49 pm »

re fit not going well discovered side is made from 1 and a half mm balsa and side snapped

ben hall · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2011, 12:54:56 pm »

side broke when trying to reinforce half side snaped

so now im putting totaly new sides on

triumphjon · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2011, 12:59:31 pm »

whats stopping you from building a new hull , using the dimensions from your existing hull but with the inclusion of a vee bottom ? if you need it drawig first , i can redraw but will need its length , beam and at least a height from the deck to chine rail , have you any idea what the draght was too ?

ben hall · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2011, 06:30:33 pm »

i had thought about putting a v hull on but i dont know how steep the v is

Shipmate60 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2011, 08:19:44 pm »

Ben,
One of the joys of refurbishing, you never quite know what you will find.

Bob

triumphjon · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2011, 08:38:49 pm »

ben its possible to work that out , and would make a more stable model than the flat bottom its currently wearing ! ive found some dimensions of 121ft l o a 25ft 6 inch beam with a draght of 6ft10 inches the vessel also has a round bilge . i would therefore sugest a scale of 1/48th to make it into a managable size ?

ben hall · « **Reply #7 on:** January 20, 2011, 10:54:31 am »

im not sure what you mean by 1/48 manigeble size

triumphjon · « **Reply #8 on:** January 20, 2011, 01:35:45 pm »

at 1/12 th scale your model would be 121inches long ! if you made it at 1/48th scale the finished model would be 30 and a quarter inches long , hence be more managable , given the fact that you often go to the lake on your own , you could carry the model without the need for somebody to take you / collect you again ! hence most of the models i operate are to a size i can safely transport on a bike ! !

ben hall · « **Reply #9 on:** January 20, 2011, 05:40:01 pm »

youve seen hms bold pathfinder it 1/48th already isnt it

triumphjon · « **Reply #10 on:** January 20, 2011, 09:02:44 pm »

then you need to think about making a new hull for it rather than adding extra weight along a repaired side section ? are you able to follow a half model sized drawing ?

ben hall · « **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2011, 10:50:18 pm »

i have got a plan for 1/48th HMS bold pursuer i have hammered quite literally both sides off and am going to plank on frame cross bread with bulkheads and normal layout but the v hull will have plank on frame then an inner del with motor and electronics on and then an upper deck open to the world with details

triumphjon · « **Reply #12 on:** January 20, 2011, 10:56:27 pm »

having looked at bold pathfinder on the net yesterday she was of round bilge construction so not quite a full vee bottom section , however what are you left with now you have hammered both side from your hull , i should imagine just a few bulkheads , the deck and its flat bottom plank ?

pugwash · « **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2011, 11:33:00 pm »

Ben just for your info the Bold boats Pathfinder and Pioneer were both different - Pathfinder as has been said was a round bilge hull
Pioneer had a hard chine hull and they were used for comparison tests prior to the Brave boats being designed. Both were fitted with
Metro-vickers Gas turbines and Pathfinder was originally fitted with two Mercedes Benz diesel engines from a wartime German E boat
but was later fitted with Napier Deltic diesels.
Geoff

triumphjon · « **Reply #14 on:** January 20, 2011, 11:43:41 pm »

pugwash , do you have any reference to bold pursuer / ive looked on the military powerboat trust but find no mention of her ? the only vessels ive found reference to are pathfinder and pioneer . jon

pugwash · « **Reply #15 on:** January 21, 2011, 12:27:00 am »

Jon as far as I can find out there were only two both built by VT and there were no Dark class boats
named pursuer - only Pursuer was an attack class escort carrier in WWII
Geoff

ben hall · « **Reply #16 on:** January 21, 2011, 10:44:41 am »

hms bold persuer was the sister ship to hms bold pathfinder they were only test boats with gas turbine engine they could be fitted out as a mtb or mgb

triumphjon · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2011, 12:50:02 pm »

ben where are you obtaining your information from ? bold pursuer has no reference under the millitary powerboat trust site ! pathfinders sister ship was pioneer.

deadbeat · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2011, 12:58:22 pm »

My warships books concur that Bold Pathfinder's sister was Bold Pioneer, these were the only two boats built, there is no record of a Bold Pursuer that I have. My main source is H T Lenton, British Warships dated 1962. By this time Bold Pioneer had already been scrapped, but Bold Pathfinder was still going.

pugwash · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2011, 01:54:28 pm »

Ben, Just checked the bible - Janes fighting ships 55/56 edition only the two as listed above - no Pursuer,
Geoff

The long Build · « **Reply #20 on:** January 21, 2011, 02:08:48 pm »

The ship was never built, I'm Not sure if it was just a Name for one of the design ships which never got built or just a name given to the Plan supplied in the January 2009 MMI mag. based on the 2 built, I did read the article but can not remember what it said..

ben hall · « **Reply #21 on:** January 21, 2011, 02:51:49 pm »

Quote from: triumphjon on January 21, 2011, 12:50:02 pm

ben where are you obtaining your information from ? bold pursuer has no reference under the millitary powerboat trust site ! pathfinders sister ship was pioneer.

i got it from wikipedia i will check the article

ben hall · « **Reply #22 on:** January 21, 2011, 03:33:20 pm »

it turns out she was her planned but unbuilt sisiter

triumphjon · « **Reply #23 on:** January 21, 2011, 04:04:17 pm »

so would you like to build as round bilge , or vee hull ?

ben hall · « **Reply #24 on:** January 21, 2011, 07:07:13 pm »

a round bilge i think would suit her

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