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tonyH

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Ships boats
« on: May 07, 2011, 10:29:48 pm »

Good Evening All!

Can anyone advise how the covers on ships boats are tied down correctly RN style? Is there a 'right'way? Are there boards or poles laid across the boat before the cover is put on?

Specifically it's for 3 large cutters on a Victorian cruiser.

The other 6 boats (2 whalers, a steam pinnace, a motor launch and 2 gigs) are all open but I want to ring the changes.

Tony

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Re: Ships boats
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 12:01:59 pm »

hi tony, I'm new to the forum but couldn't help noticing your post up for 1 month, 155 reads and not one reply! at my school (HMS Worcester) we had 2 cutters, 1 whaler, 1 captain's (1st) gig, 2 racing gigs, 1 jollyboat and one holiday dinghy. all were made from wood  and none were covered. the reason for this is that with the exception of the racing gigs, all were in constant readiness/use. being wooden they needed to be kept wet or they would dry out and leak. the only reason to cover them would be to keep them clean. that's what sailors/cadets are for. if a ship had collided with us those boats would have been needed "at the double". the racing gigs were kept in a dry boathouse when not in use, but allowed to sink for a few weeks before use to tighten up and kept on a mooring during summer term. our motor boats/lifeboats were steel/grp respectively. again in constant readiness/use.
RN policy was similar. "A ship is known by her boats" so always on display. at sea boats always ready for use, clean and tiddly.
your question, re "correctly, RN style- is there a right way? well in the Andrew there is a right way, a wrong way and the navy way. if boats were covered it would be in the RN way. ie simple, safe, effective and ridiculously expensive! and after 10 years of committees, evaluations, costings, modifications ad infinitum.
if you want to ring the changes then i say good for you! it's your model, your rules. in Victorian times covers would be canvas with brass eyelets with doubler panels at load/chafe positions. a wooden strongback/ridge from stem to stern, possibly with vertical mid length support, notched for athwartship supports to gunwhale. lashings tailored from light sisal. fastened with quick release in mind. when the boat is away all this kit has to be stowed somewhere neat and tidy. it can't be left sculling about. any help? rgds jerry.
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Re: Ships boats
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 12:26:08 pm »

Hi Jerry,

I'm sure that you've already been welcomed to the land of the ungodly but may I add my own and thanks for the reply.

The current model, i.e. the one where the boat question arises, is a French cruiser of 1897. She has 13 boats, 6 of which were ready for use swung out while the rest were on the chocks and shown covered on the photos I have. Hence the request so I don't make a total pigs ear of them. The ship itself, Descartes, seems to have been used mainly in a 'showing the flag to the natives' role in the Far East and the West Indies so was 'pretty' rather than 'functional' with all the brass bits and mahogany deck houses etc. In fact she was a bit of a waste of time seeing no action apart from being rammed twice by us, accidentally of course! I hope that the model doesn't suffer the same fate.

Regards

Tony
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Re: Ships boats
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 12:35:16 pm »

Will this help Tony ?
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Re: Ships boats
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 06:22:06 pm »

Aye, that's the sort of thing Dicky. I've had lot of input from BY via another thread (Boat Covers- Moccassins(?)) with the main problem when the bat has a transom stern rather than a canoe stern but the more photos the better.
She doesn't look as good there in the black but in the Tropical colours she should look quite good.

It's nice to have you back!

Tony

PS I don't know why I got the numbers wrong in the post to you, Jerry. I'm sure it's an age thing :embarrassed:
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