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[mickyrubble]

Hi,
 I know this glue has been around a while,but Ive never tried it and was wondering if it would be suitable in model boat applications.Any opinions welcome before i go buy it,and find out its no good!
 

[nhp651]

it sticks like the preverbial to a blanket, but you must keep it clamped whilst setting as it actually "foams" and expands slightly .
if you contact steve tranter at Modelboatbits he will supply it in a bottle about 3 times the volume for a similar price to a small bottle of proprietory gorilla glue...much more cost effective.

It will stick anything to anything, basically, as I have found.You just have to wipe off the residue foaming whilst it's still semi solid though.

neil.

[andyn]

if you contact steve tranter at Modelboatbits he will supply it in a bottle about 3 times the volume for a similar price to a small bottle of proprietory gorilla glue...much more cost effective.

It will stick anything to anything, basically, as I have found.You just have to wipe off the residue foaming whilst it's still semi solid though.

neil.

I've been playing around with Modelbond Gel, Superglue (thick and thin) and the POR glue, (seeing as we sell it I'd better make sure it's ok ) and I can assure you that it's the best stuff around....

Modelbond Gel will stick anything to anything, grabs in ten minutes and cures in 24 hours, and is so strong you'll break what it's stuck to first. Come in a very big tube for use with a caulking gun.

POR glue is so much fun... The best description of it really is builder's expanding foam but sticky. It expands a little in about ten minutes and is best used on wood. I'm using it to hold a box together with a 10 kilo sub inside it (no screws), so it's really strong stuff.

As for the superglue.. well what can I say? the thick stuff sticks my fingers together really well, and the thin stuff runs over my whole hand and sticks that instead

Andy

[Rottweiler]

anyone know where to buy the gorilla what to stick together with the glue? what scale is it ? havent got room for King Kong in my shed!!!

[CGAux26]

If you don't want your boat looking like a mad dog, use Gorilla Glue VERY SPARINGLY.  If you put 3 drops in the middle of a 2 inch square piece of wood and sandwich it with a similar piece, the GG will expand and likely foam out the edges.  Once it is hard you can cut the foam away with a knife.  But like NHP said, it sticks great.

[HS93 (RIP)]

I used it to skin fiberglass on decks of a boat and on a superstructure, great glue it is messy wear gloves as it takes to weeks or a night with a scalpel (and plasters) for it to be removed great stuff I was sticking 0.005 fiberglass sheet the same as they use on toy planes Mick reeves sells it but id you can get smaller bottles the better as it does seem to go of quick once opened. have all the weight and clamps ready you get one go once it has foamed you wont push it out. hear are two picture of it being used and the first piece glued on.

[unbuiltnautilus]

I have used it on the SS Ohio, build thread under working vessels,' SS Ohio, Pedestal Convoy'. It sticks, it did bulge a thin glassfibre deck on my corvette, despite three batteries and clamps etc, so be cautious if laminating large, thin areas.

[Jonty]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GORILLA-GLUE-60ml-STRONGEST-/110717005502?pt=UK_Crafts_Cardmaking_Scrapbooking_Glue_Tape_EH&hash=item19c73f6ebe

Feel free to remove this, Mr Mod, if I'm being too blatantly commercial.


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[derekwarner]

...Mick from the Wide-A-Wake thread says.....

"the adhesive I use is Polyurethane Rapid, it expands slightly while curing, providing any excess is cleaned of before it completely cures you are left with a clean surface"

Thanks Mick....based upon your comment I searched thw WEB & then ipurchased  500g of Sika brand...SikaBond - TechGrip.........polyurathane glue........ similar properties/drying time/strength etc

This is clearly one of the beauties of Mayhem....in getting the recommendations from people who have shown their work & hence proved the products

I once started a plank on frame model hull glued with West System ....as  it was suggested the be superior to all adhesives for marine wood work 

I am sure it is brilliant in real life applications...but mixing 5 ml to secure two planks ...  once every 24 hours was a joke & a pain..... ....Derek

[Martin (Admin)]

Thanks Mick....based upon your comment I searched the WEB & then I purchased  500g of Sika brand...SikaBond - TechGrip.........polyurethane glue........ similar properties/drying time/strength etc

 ....Derek

What's SikaBond - TechGrip like in use then Derek?

[derekwarner]

  ...only purchased it this morning Martin......

I searched on Gorilla Glue.....then found a number of alternative brands of PU glue.....& they all tell the same story for strength...drying time, 100%  water resistance when cured....foaming & expansion during cure & the use of a water spray mist prior to the application of the glue to aid the curing process......etc etc......

They also talk about the ability of the glue to penetrate the wood grain structure by long chain adsorbsion.........with the result of providing a very high end grain to end grain joint strength

The real advantages of using PU adhesives for model hull planking & wooden boat construction appear that is a 1 part application...& hence no mixing ...and it does not result in the brittle joint of epoxy resins

For me....the proof of the pudding is reviewing the images from Mick in the Wide-A-Wake thread.... ...& seeing the wooden components assembled & glued without pins & nails etc......brilliant work

The reason I chose Sika PU ...was simply availability here in Australia ..........Derek

[mickyrubble]

thanks for all the advise about Gorilla glue.Does any one still use Cascamite resin for planking up hulls as i can highly reccomend it (after all its used buy 1;1 scale builders).I used it on my bizzie build and other models going back 40 odd years and has never let me down,let me know what you think of it.
 

[HS93 (RIP)]

thanks for all the advise about Gorilla glue.Does any one still use Cascamite resin for planking up hulls as i can highly reccomend it (after all its used buy 1;1 scale builders).I used it on my bizzie build and other models going back 40 odd years and has never let me down,let me know what you think of it.
 

Cascamite resin is ok but I do a lot with old fire boats that have used it and used I used it myself 40+ years ago,  I am a time served Joiner and would not use it again , it goes brittle there is no flex in it like the modern PU adhesives  But http://www.axminster.co.uk/cascamite-powdered-resin-wood-glue-prod21688/ sell it.

peter