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[KIMBO]

HELLO ALL, GOT A LITTLE PROBLEM HOPEFULLY SOME ONE WILL HELP. I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR AGES TO MAKE DEPTH CHARGES BANG WHEN THEY HIT THE WATER. I HAVE SEEN THIS DONE AT SHOW,S, BUT WHEN YOU ASK , IT ALL GOES HUSH HUSH. I GOT HOLD OF SOME CALCIAM CARBIDE, WHEN IN CONTACT WITH WATER , IT GIVES OFF ASETALENE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT DOESENT BANG, HOW DO I IGNITE IT,  :-\ :-\ :-\ THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

[malcolmfrary]

It all goes quiet because it is a trade secret known only to those who have the appropriate license and training to handle explosives, and insurance cover if they happen to be doing it in a public place.  As a passer-by, if you have to ask, you ain't entitled to know, in the UK, anyway.
The big trick is not to make the bang, but to prevent it until you want it to happen.

[ron h]

Your biggest problem will be getting a license for what you want to do, you need one for pyrotechnics

[KIMBO]

but you would of thought a firework was more of a hazzard , never mind, back to the drawing board. thanks for the input,

[Daryl]

Another thought is that the shockwaves could harm any fish and scare any wildllife, which would not go down well with the local anglers etc.

regards
Daryl

[Peewee]

There was a bloke at my old lake that used Depth charges,  he used a certain metal in his.  Untill that is he dropped 1 on a modellers sub and actually sunk it by cracking its pressure tank.   Needless to say he was not very popular after that.   

[justboatonic]

There was a bloke at my old lake that used Depth charges,? he used a certain metal in his.? Untill that is he dropped 1 on a modellers sub and actually sunk it by cracking its pressure tank.? ?Needless to say he was not very popular after that.? ?

Blimey! Im all for scale realism but that's going too far! 

[KIMBO]

thanks for that daryl, hull has its own man made pond, not a fishy in there, just spent nearly ?50,000 on it because it was leaking, and found out it was a beer bottle in the gate valve .  i can see what you meen tho thanks ,

[Shipmate60]

Plus your insurance cover goes through the roof when playing with Pyros.

Bob

[Daryl]

Another thought most clubs in their rules and regulations ban any pyro's or as shipmate said the insurance cover rises dramaticly. Then there is local by-laws which cover noise etc. So getting a licence involves quite a few government and council deptartments, police and  the fire brigade, all of whom would need convincing you know what you are doing. In this day of the 'Nanny state' it gets expensive and time consuming, and the higth of the paperwork would probibley be greater than the higth of the explosion.

Good luck
Daryl

[DavieTait]

Not only that but after the 7th of July terrorist bombings in London i'd think that Special Branch would be taking a very very special interest in anyone wanting to blow anything up even if its only a scale model of a depth charge !!

Leave the pyro stuff to the experts better that than having your hand blown off when things go wrong.

Also think of how you would feel if an accident happened and you injured a child or an adult.

Just a couple of things to think about first really.

Davie Tait (did want to built a fully working HMS Renown SSBN with firing forckets in the 80's but not now !!)

[Daryl]

in the local paper the centre of Gloucester was evacuated becouse a business man left his breif case out side HSBC bank, the bomb desposial people blew it open, the police are interviewing the guy. Ovver reaction, maybe but after  July 7th the security services are taking no chances.

Umm can I make small depth charges and blow them up in our local lake, well that might not go down to well in city hall. Here a clamp down has been inforce on firework displays with its usual mountain of paperwork.

nice idea but I don't think it has a chance in the health and saftey terrorist alert society we live in.

Daryl

[Colin H]

It worse than you think.

The first step would be to apply for and explosive's licence from you county police firearms department. They would have to be satisfied that you had a good reason for purchasing and keeping explosive's and that you had a safe storage place and then that you had some where to use the explosive safely.

If you want to purchase say black powder for use in cannon's (re-enactment) or for use in legally held firearms then no problem.

If you want to purchase plastic explosve to blow up tree stumps or for quarrying then no problem.

If you want to purchase black powder or what ever to make fireworks it then involves the local council, health & safety executive etc. etc. etc.

To make any explosive without a licence is an offence punishable by a max term of I believe (could be wrong) ten years.

To handle any explosve without good knowledge is also known as suicide. I saw many shattered rifles. shotguns and pistols during my time in the fire arms trade.

Colin H.

[KIMBO]

hello all , you have shown me the right road to take, i will forget that idea then, ( anyone know how to split an atom ) just kidding. thanks for all the feedback tho, and i still have both hand,s bye for now

[Colin Bishop]

Pains Wessex have just issued a recall on some of the white hand flares (used on yachts etc. for warning off vessels which get too close at night). Apparently one exploded when activated and part of the flare embedded itself ito the abdomen of the user who ended up in a critical condition when last reported. These things can be very dangerous. However, I do remember many years ago lighting twopenny bangers and dropping them off Kingston Bridge into the Thames where they exploded very satisfactorily underwater. Things were different in those days. I had a friend who was into chemistry sets, he got hold of some magnesium powder which we ignited in his garden shed/workshop. It burnt through its metal container then 2 inches of workbench and he was lucky not to lose the shed. Then there were the jetex motors, you only got one flight as your lovingly crafted balsa and doped tissue plane self destructed in a flaming fireball. But there were other ingenious things you could do with Jetex fuel... Sometimes I don't know how I survived my childhood.

[Shipmate60]

I too remember the "fun" of Jetex motors, lots of burnt fingers, but oh such fun.

Bob

[Tug]

Colin got the forms and stuff about right, but then you need another home office licence to move the black powder/bangie stuff from place to place, and what happens on that day in july when the temprature reaches 80+ and your stuff is locked inthe car........  would you really want to be the person who opens the car door?

[Colin H]

Hi Tug,

I travel the country shooting black powder rifle and have no need of a home office cert. Though it does pay to notify the county police forces through which you will be traveling. Modern black powder is very stable and certainly no heat produced in a hot car would ignite it. Unless of course some yob set the car on fire then it might not be a bad idea to have a pound or two in the boot.

your Colin H.

[John W E]

hEY Colin H - dont give us ideas for a new type of burglar alarm - you might lose your car but you know that the person who tried to set fire/steal it didnt get very far, well....in once piece - bits of the person may be scattered around a bit? :)? Might clean a few of the yobs off the streets - car insurance go up a ? or two - every 2 yards big black crater in ground and bits of yob spread about & then after quite a few craters they may start to behave themselves!!!

Aye
John E
BLUEBIRD

[Daryl]

Herre here, my wife had her car broken into twice in the Gloucester Royal Hospital staff car park. They have security for the public car park and cameras covering the Doctors and security + cameras covering consoltants car parks.

When is this government or any government going to get tough on yobs.On a local pond there as been instances or yobs throwing stones at the model boats.

Daryl

[Colin Bishop]

The yobs do it because they can and there is little likelihood of action being taken against them. When it is it tends to be too lenient. There needs to be more application of no tolerance policies with stricter penalties. Prison may not be the appropriate solution but these people need to be hit where it hurts. Unfortunately the birch is no longer an option but heavy fines and/or loss of leisure time should be applied. Yobbery makes things miserable for the rest of us and puts people in fear of their safety out of all proportion to the scale of the offence. The police need to be more pro active and the courts need to back them up. The politicians who successfully put this in place will get a lot of votes!

[dpbarry]

Hmm!!

Maybe John Reid can do something about it now.? Then again, with all these changes, nothing ever get done cus they blame it on the last person saying they were still trying to clean up his/her mess.

Something needs to be done about these bass-drinkers (A polite way of describing a person with dubious parentage) as the country is in a terrible state.

Declan

[galleyboy]

Does that Submariner Pete know what you're up to? After all, we all know that submarines are just a bit of Wickes Marley drainpipe anyway..lol

[KIMBO]

I DONT THINK IT WILL EFFECT HIM , HE,S A SURFACE RUNNER  HOPE HE,S NOT READING THIS ::)

[petesubman]

I dont know marley pipe, all i can say is fence post, knitting needle, and of course shower curtain, were is kaptain bill when i need him