Topic: stabilisers (Read 7487 times)

Rob47 · « **on:** February 07, 2014, 05:22:48 pm »

Has anyone fitted working stabilisers to a model before or just left them as a static fit? I ask as Tiger has 6 of them and though it might be fun to have working, tried using heli gyros but they are really heading gyros.

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2014, 08:14:46 pm »

I've seen them on the Model Slipway Sentinel, not independently active ( pitch controller?! ),
they are linked to the rudders...

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,17000.msg175773.html#msg175773

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,33236.msg328324.html#msg328324

Rob47 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2014, 08:50:59 pm »

thanks Martin could be fool proof ??????? way of doing it, quite a bit of linkage though

nick_75au · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2014, 12:36:34 am »

Yes I have, on my 1/48 FFG, using a hobbyking 3 axis flight stabilizer, it works extremely well

Orange flight stabilizer

Servo installation, the opposite side is mirrored

External, the fin is roughly 40 mm long and 25 mm wide

Rob47 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 08, 2014, 02:15:55 am »

can you give a bit more info on that looks a good set up, but it is listed as a rx only 6ch or have I got it wrong

nick_75au · « **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2014, 07:15:08 am »

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__38543__OrangeRX_RX3S_3_Axis_Flight_Stabilizer_V2_V2_1_firmware_V_tail_Delta_AUX_.html

Mine's a version 1 but same functionality, these can run stand alone as well, Ie with a RX power supply and appropriate servos only.

What else do you need to know?

Nick

Rob47 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2014, 09:57:32 am »

Hate sounding dense

so these could act like a conventional rx? I assume I servo per slot, rather like this idea, still linkages to connect all six but operation will be cool

I assume you use both the aileron skts for the servo

These will bind with the turnigy TX 9ch I assume

thanks for taking the time

nick_75au · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2014, 10:12:42 pm »

OK so the one I linked to is a separate unit, no built in RX and will work stand alone IE don't need a receiver connected for it to work.

They do have the ones with the receiver built in, as to their comparability I don't know, it appears from the listings that they are compatible with spectrum/ JR radios , so if your 9X radio has a module that is DSM2 then the units with the built in RX will work.

Mine is set up there are 2 servos on a Y lead to the aileron port, Ver 2 has 2 separate ports, I think you might be successful using the delta configuration so that you have pitch and roll control, a feature mine does not have. Its probably going to take some mucking about to get your configuration to work but I'm more than willing to help as much as possible from the opposite side of the world

Rob47 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2014, 07:13:45 pm »

Nick I like your reply about it being a stand alone, does that mean the only other connection will be a power supply, which is your as pic a bit blurred. thing this is becoming clearer now, well slightly less murky

looking at HK page seems like the one to use will be this one
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__38543__OrangeRX_RX3S_3_Axis_Flight_Stabilizer_V2_V2_1_firmware_V_tail_Delta_AUX_.html

it has the 2 separate ports for aeil so guess that is what I would use., only other would be the power supply. It does say signal from rx but if not connected then what would that be.

|Really appreciate you input on this.

nick_75au · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2014, 05:01:15 am »

Yep that's the one, on mine I have the receiver connected to it, the unit goes in between the receiver and the servos BUT

you can just run the unit with power and the appropriate servos and have everything else as per normal, the Sig from Tx (Aux channel) is to enable switching the stabilization on or off from the TX, not needed for our purposes.

My exact set up is Rx rudder and ailerons connected to Stabilizer rudder and aileron, Stabilizer rudder to ships rudder, aileron to Y lead and one servo in each Y lead, so one servo drives one fin, as the servos are mirrored operating one direction has the opposite effect on each side. I needed to make up some female to female servo leads for the interconnects between the Rx and Stab module. Can be purchased as well.

The only reason to connect the ailerons to the Rx is to heel the ship to impress the crowd

the rudder does help to keep it in a straight line, I can sail from one side of our 300 M lake to the other with barely a deviation, All because I can not because I need to If you get what I mean

derekwarner · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2014, 05:23:11 am »

This must be pretty spectacular to see Nick.........

"The only reason to connect the ailerons to the Rx is to heel the ship to impress the crowd the rudder does help to keep it in a straight line, I can sail from one side of our 300 M lake to the other with barely a deviation"

As we well know the FFG hull is considered a surf boat

at the best of times in a big & choppy swell .....Derek

nick_75au · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2014, 05:27:28 am »

If I ever get it finished a trip to a big lake or ocean on a moderately windy day is with some scale 5-8 metre waves, 100-150 mm to really test it out

mudway · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2014, 07:54:49 am »

Do it close to shore, the TF72 ones elsewhere don't often go out in rough or windy weather. Their constructions make the hulls and superstructure really good sails.

nick_75au · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2014, 08:54:28 am »

This thing is nearly 3m long, I've had her out in a stiff breeze before, just no waves

Weighs 37 Kgs.

Nick

TailUK · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2014, 09:32:23 am »

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1013059&page=4
This build of the LCS USS Independence features stabilisers and could be worth a look.

derekwarner · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2014, 10:11:14 am »

Nick....I would love to get to Brisbane one day to see your FFG in the water...I also know she would just cut through scale waves like a hot blade in butter

....Derek

Martin (Admin) · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2014, 10:20:59 am »

Quote from: nick_75au on February 10, 2014, 05:01:15 am

The only reason to connect the ailerons to the Rx is to heel the ship to impress the crowd the rudder does help to keep it in a straight line, I can sail from one side of our 300 M lake to the other with barely a deviation, All because I can not because I need to If you get what I mean

C'mon Nick, now we want a video!

Rob47 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 10, 2014, 01:19:05 pm »

nick many thanks it is all very clear, so will now make the other 5 stab fins and start to work on this, will keep you posted on progress.

nick_75au · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2014, 05:26:32 am »

Quote from: Martin (Admin) on February 10, 2014, 10:20:59 am

C'mon Nick, now we want a video!

When I organize a new prop

, I've got some on board video on my you tube though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUOv1BWZzfbDtDS7fZRDK9MA&v=eKcWKgWgf18&feature=player_detailpage

Rob47 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 13, 2014, 10:05:33 pm »

well little orange box arrived today, connected it up and v impressed it will do the job, now need to make the other 5 fins and install.

nick_75au · « **Reply #20 on:** February 13, 2014, 10:12:33 pm »

Excellent

Rob47 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 18, 2014, 10:42:08 pm »

Nick taking this on a bit, today I have been crawling around the stab are on HMS and although a no sailing training vessel the stab actuating arms are still in place, looks just like the set up you used and I have copied. Also found out they have several different uses as well.

News:

Author Topic: stabilisers (Read 7487 times)