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[dreadnought72]

When I were a lad, I could order plans from David MacGregor.

...And now I can't. I see that they're all here, at the Brunel Institute, but only - it seems - on a "come and visit them" basis. There's a pile of stuff in there by Ough, John Lambert, and all sorts.

I could also purchase plans from Sambrook Marine, whose output got bought by WEM, but now those plans seem to have disappeared.

Outside Jecobin (Cold War and newer vessels) and John Lambert's solo work (WWII and smaller vessels) RN military ship plans seem scarce in the UK. Is there really no source for WWI ships outside the (pricey) NMM? 

Andy

[gingyer]

have a look at taubman plans in the states they have a fair collection
including some of the ones you may be looking for 

http://www.taubmansonline.com/

[Colin Bishop]

Loyalhanna/Taubman took over the Sambrook range so it's worth checking them out.

Colin

[Peter]

What about Glasgow University Archives and the Mitchell Library for Clyde built ships.

I know from experience that the Unviversity archives are very helpful. I have spent a few days there going over drawings, and their charges are/were very reasonable, for any that you would like copies of.
When I used them they charged per foot length of the copy, so a reduced size copy was less expensive, and can then be enlarged as required at a later date.
I used a company who produced Ordnance Survey maps, and again the charges were reasonable.

Peter

[gingyer]

Peter
That must of been good few years back..
The Glasgow uni make the nmm look cheap
And the Mitchell libruary have got a serious case of
"if I ignore you then you will go away"

[Peter]

Hi  Golin,

Yes, it was about 4 or 5 years ago, and I could agree with your views on the Mitchell Library.

I contacted them about drawings for the SS Bencruachan, one of the ships I sailed on, as I had two sheets of the drawings but wanted the sheet showing the hull lines and frames.
These had been obtained, by someone else, from the Mitchell Library at an earlier date.
Their response was that they had the drawings, but they were too large to copy.

Peter

[gingyer]

This year
April, yes we have the drawings but can you find them for us in our catalouge.
found them then asked for a price...........
AUGUST,  I went  and again had to find them for them
They duly sent a quote as they cant be doen on the same day,
yes I would like the drawings THEN we need you to send a order form, ok please send a blank one still waiting
another visit now required......

NOT GOOD ENOUGH!! but hey its glasgow city council what should I expect

[gbolddak]

got to be the best place is THE NATIONL MARITIME MUSEAM LONDON  a couple of guys  here have got drewings to build war ships from as the ships were not the normal popular ones

[Djcf]

Apologies about staying off the original topic, but in defence of the Mitchell Library, I must say I had  great service from them, both through email & in person, when I was researching/buying plans for a project earlier this year.
No connection with the place, just a satisfied customer

[John R Haynes]

Dave Sambrook's plans were sold to Loyalhanna thru me acting as go between . Anybody selling this range is now breaking Loyalhanna's copyright

[Circlip]

And Loyalhannas listings are as reliable as MHS or whatever it's called this week. So many privateers selling "Copyrighted" plans all over T'internet, wonder why the relevant holders don't do something about it?
 
  Regards  Ian.

[Colin Bishop]

John,
I think it is all above board. I believe Dave Metcalf has done some sort of deal to allow him to market the plans. Certainly that was the impression I gathered from him at the Warwick show last year.
Colin

[John R Haynes]

I have spoken to Don and he says that he is the Only  outlet for these plans since he paid big bucks to Dave Sambrook .

[Colin Bishop]

PM Sent.

[Neil]

PM also sent Mr JR Haynes