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[thebackways]

but the motor(s) work with the other speed controllers...so i know they are fine...could i just be the damage to the ESC ?

easier to live with a non working ( but singing motor ) me thinks not ( no offence )
there is no motion, movment, spinning, rotating, or anything from the motor
it just plays that god awful tone... >_< it doesnt change in pitch...only in volume ( louder / quieter )
like playing the same note on an instument, just louder / quieter

[John W E]

HI 
Speed controllers that shall we say ‘work’ on a switching on/ off principle will have what is called ‘output transistors’ in them that control the switching on and off of the power and some do it faster than others - so the one that you are using at the moment with the these motors may be pulsing ore switching on and of just at the right frequency to make the wires vibrate it will only harm the motor and speed controller if you keep it doing it for a long time say hours
 
By the way what make of speed controller is it? Also is it an electronize one – if so, you may have a problem with the output transistor.
 
aye
john

[thebackways]

its is, i posted a pic of its condition earlier in the tread ( pretty poor and covered with rust unfortunatly ) ive emailed them with the problem coz someone mentioned that they mentioned they do repairs

[John W E]

hi
 
by the look of that pic you have put on- there is a fair amount of corrosion on the circuit board and if it has not bean cleaned properly the chances are that it is shorting across the electrical tracks.  Instead of relying on a email to Electronize; I would give them a ring on this number 01213087411 and try and speak to Dave (i think it’s Dave) explain in a nice way what is happening with the speed controller and that you are trying to keep every thing as an original in the model.  This way you stand a better chance of getting it fixed for a small fee as the speed controller is a very old one.from about 1991/95
 
aye

john
 

[MikeA]

the cost to repair this thing would probably be higher than buying a new 1. or you could ebay a second hand one. theres a few about.

[john s 2]

I still think that a repair if possible will be cheaper than a new or secondhand. Depending on the model
you have a rheostat adjuster for possibly frequency and speed. Try using small screwdriver to adjust
them you may find the speed adj is set to low or freq needs a adj. John.     

[John W E]

hi there lilgoth89
I have just had another look at the pic of the speedcontroller and realise that it has a built in BEC on it.   These are the 2  wires one orange and one red which come from the speed controller.    They should have a switch on the end, but, some people like me are lazy and just twist the ends of the orangeand red wires together to switch the BEC on, on the speed controller.

If you have been trying to operate the speed controller with the BEC switched on and also using an RX battery plugged into your receiver, you will encounter a lot of problems.   Try disconnecting the  wires, if they are connected together, and running the set up with an RX battery plugged into the receiver.

However, I very much doubt that the above will cure your problems, looking at the corrosion in the photos.

This is a very early speed controller, pre-dating the speed controllers with a frequency adjusting pot built into them - the two pots on this circuit board control what is known as the deadband or the off position of the speed controller.   The second pot controlls the speed range from very low to very high.

Some food for thought.

Dont forget to read your personal messages.

aye
john

[thebackways]

i think im going to have to throw in the towel on this one guys...i cant get anything out of the ESC even after ive cleaned it...all i can get it a whine or a buzz if i change the mode on the dials still no movement tho...

[MikeA]

have any of the other models got speed controllers? cars or planes etc?

[n33h]

hello lilgoth

been reading your thread and must say, for a first timer you've done a sterling job getting your boats on the water, i'm very impressed mate

reference your ballast problems, i have used dried out sand (left for a few days to dry) in my tug boat, i built a balsa box (one for each side) filled up with sand then glued a lid on top of each one when i was happy with the water line

regards nick

[thebackways]

not that i can see. most of the cars are cheap RTR models with one circuilt board doing everything. while alot of the others are petrol ( so no ESC there either )
ive managed to find kind of speed controller. its manual and runs off a servo, im extreemly hesatent to use it as when its conneciton to the transmitter is lost the power servo stays where it is
meaning if she ever goes out of range, the throttles will be stuck on... and its only one speed so she'll be going full tilt all the time...

[John W E]

Hi,lilgoth89

 If you have a look in your personal messages there is an offer of some help with regards seeing if that speed controller can be fixed  for you all it will cost is the postage but as they say its up to you

aye
john
 

[Ghost in the shell]

sounds to me that the ESC is actually ok, just the drive train is stuck

1/ disconnect the motor from the shaft.
2/ remove the propeller from the shaft
3/ remove any nuts from the propeller shaft,

this should then render the propeller shaft free. 

4/ try to spin the motor using the ESC, if it spools up, thats good.
5/ try to hand turn the prop shaft. 

if it turns freely, re connect the motor to the shaft, but be careful that any lock nut goes up against the coupling, NOT the prop shaft!  once that is done, tighten the locknut against the shaft as TIGHT as you can.  then, put the washer on the prop end, followed by the nut, followed by the propeller, then screw the lock nut up TIGHT against the propeller.

IF the propshaft is jammed solid, heat it up to melt the epoxy and remove it from the boat and replace it

[thebackways]

no the probshaft turns free..i even used it on one motor not connected to anything at all...

and i have no new PMs im affraid...

[thebackways]

right after along time away here comes an update
the alte liebe has her deck fixed ( it might not be perfect but it works )
her bumpers have also been ( loosely ) re-attached
weight is now kinda close ( saving weight for the new superstructure )

the iron duke now sails well ( although still in need of better ESC )

the Endless power just needs new props ( and eventually new electronics )

the bizmark ive no idea what to do with as she is inanely Overpowered
the speedboat works as always ( although eventually i would like to convert her to decent electronics )

still looking for anyone local who is good at woodwork to assist me in scratchbuilding a superstructure
doesnt have to be museum quality as long as it looks ok pottering around on the lake

ive also been givern a metal briefcase that ive converted to hold all my r/c gear when traveling to the lake

[Norseman]

Hi
Nice to see you back
Dave

[thebackways]

yeah its taken me ages to do anything coz ive been on and off in hospital
also had the boats locked up in storage while we had parts of the house redecorated ( was abit nervous about dust messing stuff up, my pc certanally sucked enough of it up 
and when i finally got them out of storage, the boating lake was frozen 

[john s 2]

Im glad that things are now getting better for you. Sorry to hear that youve been in Hospital. I hope you are now fine. It looks with the good weather coming you should be able to start sailing. Wish you well. John.