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scottyt

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pc security
« on: February 08, 2012, 02:03:47 pm »

Hi All,
could any of you computer litterate people tell me if this is any good,

AVG Internet Security2012,covers 4 pc's for 2 years protection,£16.99.

it was recomended to me,but i am a little unsure as my skills are, move mouse around
and left click,also a little typing.
Any help greatfully appreciated.

Scotty.
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Re: pc security
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 02:17:31 pm »

In my opinion most protection systems give you to many Bells and Whistles. There are many free protection programes avalible. I myself use the free avg programe. It does all i want. John.
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Re: pc security
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 02:17:50 pm »

AVG is excellent, I use the free version and always have done.


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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 02:24:09 pm »

We think alike Rich. John.
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Re: pc security
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 02:24:28 pm »

Used AVG Free for years no problems
Now using Avast Free
Someone on here said it's the best Freebie  :-)) :-))

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Re: pc security
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 02:27:20 pm »

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Re: pc security
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 02:41:44 pm »

If you bank with Barclays then you are able to have the Kaspersky security FREE (3 machines) then you can also have it on your mobile (smart phone )
I am very happy with KIS and they have been helpful when I had a problem which I thought was an intrusion but turned out to be just a glitch in my system
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Re: pc security
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 03:23:41 pm »

Thanks for the reply's, i will check out the free stuff :-)).

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Re: pc security
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 04:23:34 pm »

The free AVAST is also well-reported...  http://www.avast.com/download-software  refers
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Re: pc security
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 04:59:48 pm »

Avast, CCleaner and MBAM, all freebies. Problem I found with AVG is that it does a full scan every time you switch on which helps in slowing the 'puter down until it's finished. Avast automatically updates its self and looks at websites as you visit. Ditched AVG about six years ago.

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 05:25:48 pm »

You can't actually beat Microsoft's FREE Security Essentials. Surprisingly for MS its very good and doesn't consume lots of your resources. Unlike AVG and Avast, you always get the latest developments as soon as they appear. With AVG etc, these tend to go into the premium (paid for) versions first.

However, anything rather than McAfee or Norton. {-) {-)

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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 05:40:12 pm »

Well I prefer Norton , found AVG a bit slugish
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 08:11:11 pm »

Norton is fine. But you pay. Ive also found from bitter experience that you cant just delete it. You have to download a removal programme. It may be diffrent now. John.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2012, 10:36:55 am »

 MS Security Essentials for firewall, security monitoring and AV.  Occasionally download a copy of Malwarebytes or Lavasoft and scan with that.  Then theres the thingy that HSBC like me to have installed for internet banking.
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Re: pc security
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 06:44:00 am »

My internet provider here in Canada provides very good security as part of my high speed package. The tech that looks after my computer has also put in firewalls. I rarely have any trouble. Mick B.
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2012, 09:54:00 am »

Norton is fine. But you pay. Ive also found from bitter experience that you cant just delete it. You have to download a removal programme. It may be diffrent now. John.

To fully get rid of it yes you have to download the removal programme, but I suspect that you never get rid of any Virus checkers fully when removing them..


As regards the bank security software, I installed that 2 years ago and then took it off as it really slowed the computer.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2012, 10:42:32 am »

Guys...I have been using Norton 360 when combined with W7x64 for some 4 years & IE9 since say 6/2011

The combination of Norton & W7x64 I find totally stable....IE9 may have a glitch  <*<

Not really sure  %) :o about the need to download a removal tool or package for Norton........ Derek

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Re: pc security
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2012, 11:38:02 am »

Uninstaller I use is "Revo Uninstaller" yep ANOTHER free-bee, Seems to clear everything out.

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2012, 11:56:17 pm »

CCleaner Crap Cleaner is good, free as well.

I use Avast after AVG had a glitch a while ago & I swapped then. I've only got hit by a virus once & that was with a paid for Norton & the virus came in, turned it off & trashed my PC! Norton is also very resource hungry.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2012, 01:32:38 am »

Uninstaller I use is "Revo Uninstaller" yep ANOTHER free-bee, Seems to clear everything out.

  Regards  Ian.


Agree :-)) :-))
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Re: pc security
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2012, 07:52:02 pm »

I use AVG free for anti-virus, never a problem

I use Iobit System Care (free) which gives me malware protection, even got rid of some pop-up adware on my brother's PC that Norton did not deal with.
System care is also good for management of the system.
Excellent for getting rid of junk files. I regularly clear out 100+ Mb of junk files.
It does de-frag an a whole hose of other tools, most of which only need me to click and walk away until they are finished. Even if I don't know what it is doing, I am confident that no harm is done.
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2012, 12:11:02 am »

There is a fundamental reason why Microsoft O/Ss cause these problems - the design of the Registry. It is a central point of failure which ALL loaded code has access to, and if anything goes wrong with it you don't just have problems with the application that caused the trouble - you have problems with the whole system. If things aren't loaded and unloaded cleanly from the registry after a while the system goes slow and dies due to loading conflicts and other interdependencies between applications and system components.   <:( <:(

Registry cleaners can sometimes help, but sometimes they make things worse. What is going on is often too complex to sort out...  {:-{ {:-{

The MS O/S is like this because it was originally designed as a single-user system with no built-in security services. You don't need security and other controls if only one person is ever going to use the system, in stand-alone mode, in a locked room. But when the PC started using internet connections and a host of multiple users/processes, that earlier design decision no longer worked, and MS created the Registry as a kludge to add the supervisory controls needed. It worked, but it wasn't the proper way to do it...   >>:-( >>:-(

Initially, MS didn't care. A machine that goes slow after a delay of a couple of years is a salesman's dream - it makes people think that their machine is 'old' and that they need a new one. But the problem gets a bit more exposure when hardware development slows and people stay on the same OS for several years, as is happening at the moment.

I find that it is worth wiping your hard drive and re-installing the OS on a MS system every 2-3 years. That sorts out all problems with the registry, spy-ware and any other issues a system may have. It's a simple morning's work as opposed to tearing your hair out trying to track down an obscure problem. So long as you keep backups...  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

Alternatively, if you need a system which just stays up and doesn't have any of these problems, use Linux. That implements fundamentally correct design theory because it's a UNIX, which is a mainframe OS design. Linux just works and doesn't need any registry cleaners or defraggers, because it doesn't have these problems...   :-)) 8)

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Re: pc security
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2012, 08:44:59 am »


I find that it is worth wiping your hard drive and re-installing the OS on a MS system every 2-3 years. That sorts out all problems with the registry, spy-ware and any other issues a system may have. It's a simple morning's work as opposed to tearing your hair out trying to track down an obscure problem. So long as you keep backups...  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:


This always sounds a great idea to me and I have disc images from when I first got everything first installed and running sweetly and I do back-ups of my data regularly to two external hard-drives but what about all those MS updates, is it possible to back all those up onto an external hard-drive to save having to download them all again? I've never known how to do that. ...... :embarrassed:
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2012, 09:49:01 am »

DG's method is great for a business type machine - usually just the OS, an office suite, printer drivers and a few specialist oddments to reinstall.
However, a domestic machine will have a bucketfull of applications - mine does my home office, plus my photo handling plus my music collection, plus a load of other stuff that I use occasionally and always forget in a reload - there are about 4 folders on my desktop each with several applications, some of which (like the bank security) have to be remembered.  Rather than one afternoon, its usually several day to get the lot back in. 
I find that a regular shot of clearing out with something like Malwarebytes, then a disc clean (hiding in accessories/system tools somewhere, using the "get rid of the old registry backups" option), then a registry clean followed by a defrag (I like Auslogics programs for both these) keeps the system nice and sprightly.  Assuming it still works (i.e. no harm done), I use a partition cloning program to make a backup of my C: drive.  Easeus, I have also used Paragon.  Should a disaster occur, it takes 25 minutes to reload the entire system onto a new drive, provided that this clone is not too old, it just needs a little time then for all of the updates to be re-done.  This is OS, all of the programs, and all of the settings including favourite/bookmark lists and stored passwords. , at least, the ones up to the time of the backup.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2012, 09:54:15 am »

While there is much in what DG says, there are many things which can slow down the apparent speed of a PC and for those of us who regularly use the Internet the main choke point is frequently a fundmentally poor broadband connection (copper from the exchange) which is being increasingly compromised by people downloading large chunks of video and hogging the available bandwith. (contention issues).

For people like me who mainly use office type applications in the domestic context, (and not memory hungry stuff like video splicing), you don't actually need much computing power compared with what most people have available. Obviously this is more important to DG who appears to have a server farm in his loft, but this is a world away from most of the rest of us.

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