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furball

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Fittings
« on: February 27, 2012, 08:57:08 pm »

Some photos of lifeboat fittings (mainly old ones) taken at Chatham that might come in useful.

(Anyone need anything specific, let me know and I'll see what I can come up with - Earliest we have is 1892 - not much left on that one, latest is Rother & Arun (54-03))

Lance
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furball

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2012, 09:02:09 pm »

OK, first up we have a pump deck plate :



About 4" across, used for pumping water out of the bilges. Put a key in the slot, turn it a bit and lift the flap, and screw one of these in it :



And pump away to your heart's content.

Used for decades, this ones off a 46'9" Watson.
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furball

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2012, 09:08:56 pm »

Next, an deck inspection port - sometimes I think these are used for fuel tank filler access:



This particularly filthy example is on B.A.S.P., a 45' Watson from 1924, and a much cleaner example:



as the fuel filler access on Mary Gabriel, a Rother.

Lift the semi-circular ring, unscrew 3 or 4 turns, and lift off. The unscrewed bit should be held on with a bit of chain, so you can't drop it into the briny.
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furball

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2012, 09:15:14 pm »

Various fittings for holding handrailiings on to wooden canopies, from different angles.













All from B.A.S.P.
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nhp651

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2012, 09:27:54 pm »

some nice shots there Lance....keep em coming.
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furball

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2012, 09:30:56 pm »

Early type folding stanchion, used up until about 1932 as far as I can work out. This is the folding base bit, the upright is just a standard 2 or 3 ball pole.





This screwed to the deck and the inside of the kickboards. These were superseded by the fixed stanchions with the triangular base plates that were screwed to the outside of the kickboards.

Again, these are from B.A.S.P.

Neil, I think Mary Stanford would probably have this type of stanchion, the other two would have had the later type.
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furball

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2012, 09:41:12 pm »

Loud hailer, sans paint, in the act of being refurbished:



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furball

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2012, 10:12:27 pm »

Exhausts.

Watercooled exhaust outlet in the side of the hull. Fitted to almost all the double enders that had a diesel engine fitted. Sometimes these had a sort of semicircular rubber shield fitted.

41' Watson, Susan Ashley



(I'll edit this post when I can find the pic of 52' Barnett St. Cybi, which has the shield fitted)

Petrol type exhaust (for boats that didn't have funnels):



Beware, though, as this photo is of 35'6" Liverpool Grace Darling, which used these exhausts with diesel engines. Also as built, the 46'9" Watsons & 52' Barnetts exhausted up the mast, but some were changed to exhaust out the side.



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furball

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2012, 10:21:44 pm »

Splashproof cowl vent - the idea being that any water going in just drained out through holes round the bottom of the vent. Air gets behind the angled splash screen inside and down the central pipe into the boat



from Susan Ashley.

All the cowl vents I've seen on any boat have been like this, from B.A.S.P. (1924) up to Edward Bridges (Arun. 1975).
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nhp651

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2012, 10:31:20 pm »

Early type folding stanchion, used up until about 1932 as far as I can work out. This is the folding base bit, the upright is just a standard 2 or 3 ball pole.





This screwed to the deck and the inside of the kickboards. These were superseded by the fixed stanchions with the triangular base plates that were screwed to the outside of the kickboards.

Again, these are from B.A.S.P.

Neil, I think Mary Stanford would probably have this type of stanchion, the other two would have had the later type.
you 're probably right Lance, as she was built in 1930, and I have one shot of a colapsable bracket on ther foredeck, but as this would mean building a whole new set of Stanchions and brackets just for one boat, i'm afraid that modellers license is taking a hand here and she'll be having the triangular plates as on the H F Bailey and FM....the plans actually show the triangular brackets/and the collapsable type in places...........so right or wrong in this instant they'll be triangular..............
sadly if one were to go down the road of making individual fittings, (and remember that these kits are aimed at those who would like to model a lifeboat rather than have an exact museum replica), then the cost would sore due to even greater and longer development costs,
the fanatical builder would then be able to modify as they wanted from the basic kit.
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furball

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2012, 10:51:30 pm »

Do you have any idea when the kits are likely to see the light of day Neil (the Liverpool's been a loooong time coming...)

Lance
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nhp651

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2012, 11:04:17 pm »

probably not in my lifetime, Lance.......lol {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: Fittings
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2012, 11:32:10 pm »

Re your hand operated bilge pump:  What's the most effective dewatering device commonly found on a boat?  A 5 gallon bucket.  Most effective in the hands of  the boat's owner, standing knee deep in rising water.   O0
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nhp651

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2012, 09:43:24 pm »

Lance.............belay that last PM.....just looking through my pics of fittings and I have (must have missed them) two pics of a cable cutter off the barnett................I have more or less got it right with what I have cast.....yippeee.

It's the dark rusty thing......the orange painted beasty is the cable stopper.

gawd knows how they work though, lol

what I do know is though that the lever arm goes into the casting that is hanging down like the elephants trunk and pulled upwards to sever the cable........but where the cable goes I can't work out, because this item is set on the deck with that "elephants trunk" running fore/aft position, and not across deck as it might seam from the photo??
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heritorasphodel

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2012, 09:54:32 pm »

We think we know how both work  :-))

On the cutter, in the midst of all of it there is a blade mounted somewhere inside. You slot a wooden handle into the socket, which you can just about see, and then just lever it down which compresses the blade to cut the cable.

For the stopper, we think the base is stepped. The cable runs through the lower level and up into the higher. There's a wheel with a handle on it, and when this is wound in it simply compresses the cable against the step. Simple, but no doubt effective.

Are these particular ones from the Mary Stanford?

Andrew
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nhp651

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2012, 10:11:00 pm »

no andrew......they're from a mk2 barnett.......but the drawings for both boats show the same thing on the theme.......so I don't think there would be a great deal of change for something as simple as those two pieces of equipment..
neil.

here's the inards of the cable stopper.
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heritorasphodel

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Re: Fittings
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2012, 10:12:37 pm »

Ah, okay.
Cheers  :-)

Andrew
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