Topic: King George V (Read 11331 times)

guitar man · « **on:** April 05, 2012, 06:34:52 am »

Hi all
I am about to start a build of the above ,has anyone done a build of this ( I have found a king George class one by blue bird Dint remember the name as i am typing) Do you know what the stability of them is like, also the plan states 20ft to 1 inch does this give a scale of 1 to 240 or do I have that wrong. The plan also states a kako 4 electric motor anyone know what that equates to.

Many thanks in advance for any comments

Regards as Always Tony

dodgy geezer · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:07:13 am »

Here is a Kako 4. It is a 1960s motor, AlNiCo magnets, not very powerful (it was their second-from-top-of-the-range). Size 1.5"x2.25", 5 oz, 3-6v.
They recommended it for 24-30" hulls - I would guess that any modern 540 would do fine....

Rottweiler · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2012, 12:59:41 pm »

Hi, A pal of mine scratch built a model of the "Duke of York" one of KG5s sister ships,many years ago,sorry I don't know the scale, but she is in the region of 7 feet long.She is a superb sea boat,no problems in a very strong wind,and a chop on the lake.Sadly he has passed away,and his son who inherited his superb models,very rarely brings it out,which is understandable,because it brings memories of his Dad.
All I can say it makes a wonderful and seaworthy model, so go ahead! If you can get hold of the little Atlas Diecast model of her,with such brilliant detailing,it may give you the incentive to produce a large version!
Cheers,
Mick

Raymond · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2012, 02:01:26 pm »

Hi I scratch built H.M.S. Duke ofYork in 1/192 scale some years ago very stable reqired plenty of lead ballast,if you are going for full scale make sure you do plenty of research i.e.year the model represents, these K.G.V's class went through many changes during their lives mainly in anti aircraft armament and arrangement and placing of ships boats but all differed in parts of the superstructure as well,during my research I found more than one publication with photo's giving the wrong ships name.
Good luck with the build
Ray

BrianB6 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2012, 05:35:42 am »

I would advise against building it at 1:100

One of our club members has a U.S.S. Missouri at that scale.
Very impressive but he needs a purpose built trailer.
He must like the scale, he also has Queen Elizabeth 2 and is building Queen Mary 2
We are also waiting to see KG5 at 1:72! from another member (Task Force 72)
We do things BIG here downunder.

dodgy geezer · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2012, 09:44:25 am »

Um... if he's doing 1:240, then it's going to be about 3 ft long....

raflaunches · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2012, 09:50:10 am »

Hi Tony

My friend has built a 1/96 scale model of HMS King George V using the Deans Marine hull which is available as part of their mouldean range.
He has displayed it at several shows, twice at Warwick and at mayhem at Wicksteed several years back. It's a very impressive model both on and off the water but takes up a lot of space, it's over 7 ft long. He made all the turrets to rotate and uses MMB smoke generators for smoke from the funnels. If I can get my home Internet to work today I will upload a picture of his model at the mayhem.

Regards

Nick B

guitar man · « **Reply #7 on:** April 07, 2012, 12:13:21 am »

Thanks for all your thoughts, I look forward to starting the build, will see if I can post a few pictures as it progress/

Regards Tony

Bob K · « **Reply #8 on:** April 07, 2012, 12:27:44 am »

Here's a clever 1/350 scale Tamiya King George V that actually makes itself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=halntjnqPbU

Or a big Prince of Wales at the Deans Marine Open Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrUrFoMnoO4

raflaunches · « **Reply #9 on:** April 08, 2012, 04:20:33 pm »

Found the picture of the 1/96 scale KGV battle ship at Mayhem 2010 I was looking for.

Most of the fittings are from Deans Marine as my mate often does some projects for Ron so he had plenty of spares!

Nick B

Rottweiler · « **Reply #10 on:** April 08, 2012, 04:26:08 pm »

looks like it could be a nice model,although I cant see a lot.Any chance of a close up photo please?
C?heers,
Mick

raflaunches · « **Reply #11 on:** April 08, 2012, 04:55:55 pm »

Hi Mick

I'll have a look through my archives, it may take a while as I have over 4000 pictures to look through.
When I find them I will upload them for you.
Regards

Nick B

guitar man · « **Reply #12 on:** April 08, 2012, 05:25:34 pm »

HI
Indeed a super model,

Regards Tony

tassie48 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 09, 2012, 10:11:05 am »

Seen a 1/48 KGV here in Queensland huge model built by a great modeller mate of mine up country from us tassie48

guitar man · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2012, 04:03:38 pm »

Hi all
In need of some advice again if you could be so kind

I have now reached the stage in my build where I want to fit the motor drive. Now I think the plan is old and is calling for a Kato 4 motor single drive. It has been suggested earlier that a 540 would possibly be ok. However my thoughts have moved on since then, I would now like to have a twin prop drive. So I thought first a single motor with a pulley/gear drive to the two shafts,now I am thinking might as well have two motors (please say if this is not a good idea).
so my questions:
1. If I use two motors should they reduce down in size or do they stay at 540 size
2. if they reduce down what would be a suitable size I was thinking 385 (but I know little on the motor subject)
3. If I have two motor do the prop size reduce
4. Am I right in thinking that they maybe able to run of one esc
lastly the ship had four prop shafts. So I was thinking of fitting two dummy ones and driving two, but is it better to have the driven ones in front of the dummies, or behind them looking from the rear of the model, or does it not matter. Or is it best not done and left as two.

I know its a lot and any advice would be appreciated
A few photos of the build so far
Forgot to say the model is just over 36 inch long by 5 1/2 beam
Kind regards as always Tony

raflaunches · « **Reply #15 on:** December 28, 2012, 06:09:30 pm »

Hi Tony

Looking good so far, very nice work.
As to your problems-
1&2- As you say you want to run at least two propellers so I would go for the two smaller motors (385s) instead of the 540s so you don't over power the hull and cause the speed boat effect!

3- How big does the plan show the suggested prop for the single shaft version? If you choose to have 4 shafts with only two working shafts it would be better to have the props at a smaller size basically to allow everything to fit beneath the hull.

4- You certainly can use one esc to control two motors but to would have to make sure you use the correct amp/volts example to ensure that the esc is powerful enough to run two motors- too lower amp and the esc could not work.

5- If you want to have four shafts but only have two running, I would suggest having the running shafts on the outside to allow a better flow of water over the rudder which increase the turning ability of the model.

This is just from my experience with running my boats for the last 7 years so hopefully everything should work but other members maybe able to assist further with the types of esc to use, etc.
Regards

Nick B

guitar man · « **Reply #16 on:** December 29, 2012, 04:54:39 pm »

Thanks greatly Nick much appreciated now I can move on

kind regards TONY

guitar man · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2013, 11:12:30 pm »

Hi guys
just wondering what your thoughts are on rudder access. I know this can be disguised which hatches and such on some models but this will not really work on my king George. So the only options I can think of are to split the deck and make a section removable or to leave it inaccessible until such time something goes wrong, then deal with it ,any thoughts? you will probably suggest something obvious that has not even crossed my mind. Anyway many thanks in advance

Kind regards as always Tony

Norseman · « **Reply #18 on:** January 04, 2013, 08:21:24 pm »

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rudder+hms+king+george+v&hl=en&client=safari&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_jbnUI3mFoSa0QXSvIDIDA&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=480&bih=268#i=24

Hi Tony
I'm pretty sure you will one day need access and what a b### breaker that will be on a sealed deck. But just trying to think outside the box for a minute that stern has a lovely horizontal that could form a cutaway / even breakaway stern section under a fixed deck with a waterproof bulkhead for the rudder. Not saying it would be easy but I think it's possible.

Anyway it's something to think about until the big guns come back with the proper answer.

Dave

yamato · « **Reply #19 on:** January 04, 2013, 10:42:01 pm »

Hello. If you want a BIG KG5 have a look at www.kittiwakeboats.co.uk who do a kit for a manned version,
24 ft long in 3 8ft. sections for easy transport. If you're anywhere
near the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich you can see a KG5
in 1/48 scale.

cheers,

John Irish

guitar man · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2013, 05:17:44 pm »

Hi all
If I was to use two motors to drive two props can I still work OK using one rudder in the center or does it need twin rudder any comments much appreciated
Kind regards as always

Tony

Norseman · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2013, 05:21:47 pm »

Hi Tony - did you press send by accident?

Dave
Edit - the rest of your message has just appeared

guitar man · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2013, 05:23:22 pm »

Yes

Norseman · « **Reply #23 on:** January 20, 2013, 11:53:31 pm »

http://www.prdobson.com/project/hms-king-george-v-1939/1/ just seen this posted by Lash51

Dave

guitar man · « **Reply #24 on:** January 22, 2013, 09:47:22 pm »

Hi Dave

Thanks for the link will be a good reference site.

Regards Tony

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