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Bernhard

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« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2008, 04:06:39 pm »

hi..........thats a el water pump....it works werry wel...so sun there not is enof water in the boiler  it start to work,,,,and in the front of the launch there is a 1 liter water tank,,,under the ancher,,so all in 1,6 liter  it can be working 1 ahour  with aut a break,,,and stil oil back,,,,,,,you can se it work here   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85bb7FQERUo   and here

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hHp7e5fzjk&feature=related

regards Bernhard
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Bernhard

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« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2008, 06:55:15 pm »

hey,,,,,,,,,, a Friend of me,,have build this,,,can be on the water for 45 minuts ,,,he have used it for many years,,,,,,,
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owCKmt1neo0
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steamboatbob

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« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2008, 02:28:43 am »

Here is my old beastie
unfotunately i cannot find any piccies where i showed the motor and as i have sold it i cannot take any more. it was a lot of fun but too heavy for me and my bad back 25 kilos was the running weight she was 1.5 metres long and had 5 divers weights strapped inside for ballast


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Proteus

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« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2008, 03:41:58 am »

steamboatbob   any chance of a picture of the steam plant.

Proteus
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steamboatbob

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« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2008, 06:48:38 am »

unfortunately no as i have sold it to a guy around 4 months ago and i cannot find any photo's of the plant it was a homebuilt one from my dads workshop twin piston single boiler if that is any help
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ian kennedy

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« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2008, 11:47:13 am »

Hi guy's

Here are a few images of my current long term build on HMS Inflexible

She is powered by two modified Tr1a's a custom built John Hemmens boiler and gas attenuator, home made water feedpump and level control.

Ian
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Bunkerbarge

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« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2008, 12:39:32 pm »

That's a lot of engineering crammed into a small space!!!  Fantastic job though and she looks superb.

Can you tell us a bit more about the level control you use and a basic description of everything you have there?  Even the chain drive looks a work of art!
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ian kennedy

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« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2008, 01:57:08 pm »

Thankyou very much Bunkerbarge,

I will try to give you some more techy info,

The model is not that small, she is 44" long x 9 1/2" beam.

Aluminium heatshielding foil and butchered soldering mats form the heat reflective silver surfaces you might see in the piccies, not really needed but i thought it was a good idea as the models machinery will be completely enclosed.

Ventilation is from eight PC cooling fans driven off the 12v power supply for control system and pump etc, the cowl vents at the forward half pull cold fresh air into the boiler space and four cowl vents at the stern exhaust the hot/warm air.....resulting in a scale model form of forced draught.....kind of anyway it works for me.

The two TVR1 A's are independently controlled through the long brass shafts at the top of the engines, these are linked via chain and sprockets and clevis linkages to the reversing levers.

Steam regulation is independently controlled through the long chain and sprockets nearest the hull sides to two ACS steam regulators, which are bolted to a link plate which supports the rear funnel/stack one per engine.

The water pump is a home built small bore long stroke ram pump driven off a 12v 50-1 reduction geared motor through an adjustable aluminium eccentric cam.

Both engines can be removed quickly as one unit by disconnecting reversing links and steam/exhaust pipes, and undoing two socket cap bolts lifting out the sludge tray and engines in one unit.

Lubrication is from a single large displacement lubricator in the main steam line, and steam oil separation is done in two stages both engines exhaust into the large condenser drum between the shafts/couplings. Then a single large bore steam/exhaust pipe feeds out to the rear funnel, which has a separate drip trap built into the base and an overflow tank for any sludge/water.

This results in a very clean running steam model.......thankfully as the model is going to have about 14 ships boats all above/around the engine room rear super structure.

As for the water level control that is a secret at the moment, sorry....as this and a gas valve and temp regulation monitoring system will soon be available commercially resulting from my tinkering........it does work believe me, With this system i can get about an hours worth of reliable  steaming without any worries.

I hope i have answered some of your questions?

Cheers
Ian
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kno3

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« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2008, 05:49:01 pm »

Hi, impressive steam plant! The chains are used for turning the steam valves, one for each engine?
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ian kennedy

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« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2008, 11:21:48 pm »

Yes and no, The long chain runs down each side of the hull is to control the regulators and the lateral ones aft control the reversing linkages.
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mogogear

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« Reply #60 on: October 27, 2008, 04:32:59 am »

Ian,  that is some set up. great engineering... The flat link chain is interesting. Do you have a shot of the boat with the superstructure in place......? I like those older style warships... there is a very nice one in my boat club..USS Oregon... The gun turrets sure seem similar..


Once again - impressive power plant planning and execution! :-)) 
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wideawake

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« Reply #61 on: October 27, 2008, 09:44:03 am »

The flat link chain stirred something in the "leetle brain cells"!   It looks very like how I remember meccano chain many years ago when I was a lad.

Guy
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ian kennedy

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« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2008, 10:19:38 am »

Hi Guy,

Your memory serves you very well indeed that is exactly what  is used for the chain linkages.

Every meccano dealer near where i live runs a mile when they see me.........they don't like me buying all their stock of sprockets,gears and chain!!!!

Regards
Ian
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ian kennedy

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« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2008, 10:29:46 am »

Hi Mo,

I am working on the superstructure at the moment, all 0.50mm brass which is mainly bolted together with 16BA nuts and bolts, but some sections are silver soldered where it is quicker.

Sorry no pic's as yet but once i get the basic structure completed i will post it here.

The superstructure is quite awkward, there are lots of angle changes, cut outs for doors,scuttles and the like. Up to now it has taken about 4 months of spare time just to mark and cut all the shapes out, bend bolting flanges etc....I like working with metal but some of the shapes are a pain in the a*%e to cut out without distorting the finished plate.

Cheers
Ian
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mogogear

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« Reply #64 on: November 10, 2008, 05:11:27 pm »

All in good time- we can wait for a grand ship to take shape- if the top is any thing like what you have done below deck - I will savor the waiting-- good luck Ian
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MCR

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« Reply #65 on: November 10, 2008, 09:56:37 pm »

This is the progress so far on my first attempt at an engineering project.
Built from solid with a great deal of help from a club member it is the Borderer twin cylinder marine engine designed by John P Bertinat.
The ultimate aim is to have it installed in an open launch.
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« Reply #66 on: November 10, 2008, 10:01:43 pm »

Thats a very nice piece of work MCR, looking at the engine, I'm guessing you will be having reversing gear as you have twin eccentrics fitted.
Whats the bore and stroke ?
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MCR

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« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2008, 10:26:06 pm »

The bore is 5/8th and a 9/16th stroke.
I am hoping that it will have the power to push along a 48" open launch the design has very clean lines so I hope it will be OK.
And yes it will have reversing gear.
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wideawake

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« Reply #68 on: November 11, 2008, 08:48:20 am »

The bore is 5/8th and a 9/16th stroke.
I am hoping that it will have the power to push along a 48" open launch the design has very clean lines so I hope it will be OK.
And yes it will have reversing gear.

I'm sure it will be fine.  At least, I hope so as my ex-ebay twin is a little smaller and destined for the wideawake (52 x 12).   BTW intetested to see that you're building Borderer from bar stock rather than using the Reeves casting set.  I have a Marcher (smaller version of Borderer) part finished but I b****ed the cylindrr block while drilling the steam passages so it's been put away for now  :((

Cheers


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kno3

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« Reply #69 on: November 11, 2008, 03:11:35 pm »

This is the progress so far on my first attempt at an engineering project.
Built from solid with a great deal of help from a club member it is the Borderer twin cylinder marine engine designed by John P Bertinat.
The ultimate aim is to have it installed in an open launch.

Looks very nice and clean. What bore & stroke does it have?
Why don't you make a topic to show the construction progress?
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MCR

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« Reply #70 on: December 17, 2008, 11:15:41 pm »

Progress update
Steam chests in place, lagging done, covers produced but still needs to be fixed in place.
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mogogear

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« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2008, 01:33:36 am »

MCR- Looks great!! Can't wait to see it running!
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« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2008, 08:32:12 am »

Hi all & a question to Ian ......from October 25/08  .....HMS Inflexible......& a most impressive & complex machinary posting   :-))

I see the two ACS steam regulators....[I have a single ACS RCREG1] but was wondering why they are mounted at that 15 degree offset...just a space limitation back to the deck height?

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ian kennedy

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« Reply #73 on: December 20, 2008, 11:22:11 am »

Hello Derek,

The ACS regulators are mounted this way to provide extra space for the two gun turret rotation mechanisms.

I have had to think quite a bit about the layout of the various mechanisms, hence the use of chain control linkages etc to keep all the electronics away from the steam equipment.

The regulators are there to give shut off and finer control over each individual engine as the main pressure control is through a servo controlled steam valve from the boiler, which is also chain driven.

I hope this answers you question

Regards

Ian
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« Reply #74 on: December 20, 2008, 11:41:57 am »

Hi all - another question.....HMS Inflexible 25/08.....for Ian.......

I see the horizontal brass lay shafts that provide the rotary movement to each engine throttle/reversing gear linkage & understand this....but you also have the independent variable steam control to each engine via the ACS regulators

Again I understand this but not how you control the mixing or proportional functions via R/C...  <*<

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