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kinmel

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Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« on: June 16, 2012, 11:38:14 am »




Llandudno Town Council have applied for planning consent to move the marble statue shown in the foreground of this photo into the very centre of the model boating lake.

This 120 year old boating lake is one of the finest free-sailing yachting lakes in the U.K. and is in constant use by locals and tourists alike.

More information can be read in our local newspaper's website   -  http://www.northwalesweeklynews.co.uk/conwy-county-news/local-conwy-news/2012/06/14/puting-statue-in-the-middle-of-the-west-shore-boating-lake-would-spoil-their-sport-say-model-boat-enthusiasts-55243-31175821/

The Model Yachting Association, The Vintage Model Yacht Group,Colwyn Bay model boat club and many individuals are all making formal objections to the proposal and we invite other clubs and individuals to support our efforts by making their own objections to the Planning Authority before the 28th June, 2012.

Details of how to do so by email are shown here -  http://www.conwy.gov.uk/sectionextra.asp?cat=489&Language=1 and you should quote Reference No 0/38903 " Notice of Application for Listed Building Consent, relocation of Listed marble White Rabbit memorial sculpture from it's present location to the centre of the adjacent boating pond."

Your support may help save this important boating venue.

thanks for your help.

Our Club can be contacted at  secretary@colwynbaymodelboatclub.co.uk


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Re: Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2012, 12:02:18 pm »

Problem with trying to get Councillors to see common sense is that with local elections, they're never in office long enough to answer for their follies. A case of Hare today and gone tomorrow. Good luck with your efforts though.

  Regards   Ian.
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Re: Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2012, 11:15:40 pm »

I have sent an email, lets hope plenty of others do to protect one of our sailing venues :-))
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Re: Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 02:27:21 am »

Three emails sent from my family <*< :-))

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Re: Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 10:57:49 pm »

come on mayhem, 1836 members, a club has asked for some support to help preserve a long standing boating lake, how about some more of you showing some support, maybe in the future you will need some help?
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Re: Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2012, 11:31:03 pm »

Just to add
please put your address in your email - I didn't and was then asked for it.
My reply to the guy bounced back twice and after that I just forwarded it to the link above.
I do wish I'd put it on the first email - simples

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Re: Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2012, 11:20:05 pm »

I am pleased to report, I have had an email from Conwy council, the plan to locate the monument in the boating lake has been scrapped,  :police:
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Re: Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2012, 11:28:45 pm »

Now that is GOOD news


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Re: Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2012, 06:32:32 am »

the plan to locate the monument in the boating lake has been scrapped,  :police:

The planning application has been withdrawn (for the time being), we will wait and see what the council come up with next!
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Re: Help protect Llandudno's West Shore model boating lake.
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 09:25:10 pm »


The Llandudno West Shore model boating lake is no longer under threat, the planning application has been withdrawn and a council working party is developing other solutions.

When we first spoke to town councillors about their proposal their answer was blunt:-   "You are just a few old men, big boys playing with big toys and there is nothing you can do."

It is always a good omen when the other side don't recognise their opponent's abilities.

The few are not just Colwyn Bay MBC, but the worldwide model boating community.  The old each have 168 hours a week to commit to a project and us big boys happily spent months researching the smallest details for their next big toy build.

In any worldwide community there are members with many different useful talents and professions and in our's such people are happy to step up to the plate and work for our common good.

Within a week, an architect member of the MYA had, pro bono, submitted fully developed plans and schemes that protected the lake while giving any reasonable applicant a number of schemes to save the statue.

The constant claim from the Planning Office was that there was no evidence that the lake was ever intended for model boating use, nor proof of regular model sailing there.

An historian member of the MYA and the Vintage Model Yacht Group readily proved that model boats had been sailed there for over 120 years.  He eventually went on to discover that the National Library had a newspaper article dated 1888 about Llandudno Model Yacht Club's first AGM that read “  A cordial vote of thanks was then passed to the Chairman and Committee of the “Unemployed Relief Fund” in consideration of their having come to the aid of the club by having Penmorfa Pool cleared, embanked, and otherwise improved, and so rendering it fit for sailing purposes.  ”

Numerous objections were sent in from all over the world and the Planning Officer recommended rejecting the Proposal, which was then withdrawn.

It is very pleasing that the local, national and international model boating community has sufficient interest in our hobby that they can successfully fight for our heritage.

I would like to thank everyone, everywhere who helped save an important part of model boating's history.
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