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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #75 on: September 04, 2012, 05:44:58 pm »

 
"We use pig urine on land airfields"

"Did you know that the "de-icing" fluid used on flight decks was horse pee? Came in big drums. BY"


... OK. OK! Very funny. No need to take the .... urine... just 'cause I'm thick.    <*<
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #76 on: September 04, 2012, 05:52:25 pm »

Is sheeps urine no good.
How much is it costing me as a taxpayer
To fly those pigs down and train them to
fill the vat.

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« Reply #77 on: September 04, 2012, 07:50:22 pm »

Martin.....you'd better believe it. Look at the effect that human pee has when aimed at snow. And horses have more of it.
Can't comment about pigs though. Perhaps one is just more available than t'other. BY.
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #78 on: September 04, 2012, 08:01:18 pm »


OK, say I do believe you guys (and I don't)   :P

... how do you collect pig pee?

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« Reply #79 on: September 04, 2012, 08:02:35 pm »

Very carefully  O0
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« Reply #80 on: September 04, 2012, 08:07:33 pm »


OK, say I do believe you guys (and I don't)   :P

... how do you collect pig pee?



Rubber gloves and a bucket. O0 O0 O0

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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #81 on: September 04, 2012, 09:02:52 pm »

Urea is a byproduct of urine and is used for all sorts of things from explosives to flavour enhancers for tobacco
and including de-icers
You would not believe all its uses
have a look at the link - obviously taking the p-- is worth a small fortune

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #82 on: September 04, 2012, 10:14:57 pm »


OK, say I do believe you guys (and I don't)   :P

... how do you collect pig pee?


I am waiting to be told they now fly, Pigs that is.  %) %) %) {-) {-) {-)

As we don't have that problem in Oz but if we did well I suppose kangaroos??????????????????????????
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #83 on: September 04, 2012, 10:16:21 pm »

Urea is a byproduct of urine and is used for all sorts of things from explosives to flavour enhancers for tobacco
and including de-icers
You would not believe all its uses
have a look at the link - obviously taking the p-- is worth a small fortune

Geoff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea

Not to mention the glue, Urea formaldahyde  O0 O0 O0 O0

And on subject of horses, Animal glue, the oroiginal and still best glue for wood, is made from Horses hooves.
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #84 on: September 05, 2012, 02:17:45 pm »

I don't want to know how they collect it- as long as I don't have to do it myself!  %%
All I know is that I don't like the smell or the taste.
Once again very cold by UK standards, rain/sleet and very gusty winds. Up at 4.30am this morning to see a jet in, not a brilliant way to start the day. Also got covered in diesel from the station fuel bowser and had negotiate with the Portuguese aircrew in our sub-standard Portuguese (talking English very slowly and pointing!).
Booked myself on to a welding course to make the evenings go quicker, and gives me something to do when I get back home (I have more than 6weeks of leave to use!!!) so I will be spending alot of time welding my old MG ZA Magnette back together!
Hopefully I might get off camp soon to visit the sights, probably battlefield touring or driving to San Carlos not entirely sure yet!
 
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2012, 02:22:09 pm »

And the worlds southern most suspension bridge! (goose Green way if I remember correctly).
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #86 on: September 05, 2012, 02:23:00 pm »

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And on subject of horses, Animal glue, the oroiginal and still best glue for wood, is made from Horses hooves.

 Not to glue a toy boat together, resulted in re-kitting in 1956.

  Regards  Ian.
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2012, 02:09:01 pm »

Hello everyone

Weather has improved to bright blue skies and a balmy 8 deg C, and more surprising that the wind has dropped but I am sure that as soon as the airbridge jet lands the weather will know and throw everything at us whilst we are servicing it!
I attended my first welding lesson last night, very interesting, learning a new skill is always a challenge but I think I have mastered Mig welding to a certain degree and will learn to use Tig welding tonight before moving on to Arc welding next week! At least it stops me spending my time in the NAAFI {-)
Hopefully this Saturday I will visit Port Stanley again so I can get some better pictures of the wrecks and local points of interest.
We had a panic on Wednesday morning whilst preparing for the big Airbus A340 arrival, we discovered all our aircraft chocks were missing from the VASS site. My mate and I went running around the Timmy's Hangar (what we call Tristars) to no avail and so we decided to get in the small aircraft tractor to go hunting! After 30mins we were driving by the VC-10 when I spotted that it had twice as many chocks as it needed, after a few swear words we nicked our chocks back- just in time, as we positioned the last chock into place the Airbus landed and was rolling onto our pan, needless to say there was a few words said to the VC-10 ground crew! <*<
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #88 on: September 06, 2012, 09:07:26 pm »

Do you get any type of recognised certificate with the welding course, welders are always in demand, you never know if/when you leave the RAF. At work when I have to weld anything I always use TIG least amount of mess with really good penetration of the weld.

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« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2012, 05:30:29 pm »

Hi Brian

As far as I know its just an experience course to get you started/interested in welding. I was talking to the instructor and he informed me that it takes 18months in RAF to get a welding qualification! I am quite happy with the experience I can practice for 4 nights over two weeks with a Mig/Tig/Arc welder and get my skills upto a reasonable standard before I dare touch my pride and joy car (when its restored anyway :embarrassed:). Got burnt fingers last night using the Tig welder- not a very nice sensation!
I might do the sheet metal bending course too just to get some experience.
I bought some stuffed penguins from the Bimble Shop today and to my shock found out that they were made any 5miles from my home in the UK, amazing to see how far they have travelled just to come back to within 5miles of the factory! :}
Received my second parcel from home (only takes a week to get out here!) with all my birthday cards, pictures of my next model boat project (HMS Protector 1965) and few Model Boat magazines, almost feels like home, apart from the weather which has got colder and windier again. >>:-(   
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2012, 09:03:23 pm »

amazing to see how far they have travelled just to come back to within 5miles of the factory! :}

Oh you really should go that extra five miles to the factory when you get back - homing Penguins might become the new X'mas sales line.

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« Reply #91 on: September 08, 2012, 09:12:36 am »

Hi, following your posts with great interests.  Do they still have lots of trade groups in the RAF? I think there were 22 when I was in.  I was wondering what trade training you had done.  I used to work on air radar but got myself involved in instruments and electrics as well.  We would do the after flights and turn rounds etc, I worked on Canberras and transport A/C.  I was on a squadron and also 2nd. and 3rd. line repairs in the radio servicing flight.

The spare time activities you mention sound very useful.  Having only been in Germany and UK we had to find our own pursuits.  In Germany I joined the model aircraft club and built model boats!  But I asked for all the bits off crashed model aircraft and after a while I built one from the remains and it flew very well.  No one in the club had RC then, it was very expensive, we would go out on the airfield when closed at the weekend and fly there.  On one occasion we were flying and a Canberra was circling trying to land and they sent a truck out to get us out of the way, but it was quite good natured.
We also had  individual "chuff" numbers, this was a number produced from dividing time done over time to do.  The number 1 meaning you were half way through.
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Re: Falkland Islands- what a detachment!
« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2012, 01:18:34 pm »


Oh you really should go that extra five miles to the factory when you get back - homing Penguins might become the new X'mas sales line.

I like that very much, I might just visit the factory to show them how far they have travelled! :-)) Who knows they might replace homing pigeons!

Hi Roy
Some of the trade groups have joined together and some have completely disappeared, the latest that might go is the chefs as everything in the Mess is going civilian!
I am in what is left of trade group 1 after the massacre of the cut-backs. I trained as an airframe technician (rigger) but due to cut-backs six years ago I was cross-trained to become an engine technician (fitter) too. Most aircraft jobs have become dual trades, aircraft electricians have joined forces with avionic techs, even aircrews are often dual trade!
Back in the UK I work in an aircraft servicing unit at Marham where I conduct the final part of the servicing, the final rebuild, functional testing, and flight testing. In the Falklands I am experiencing 1st Line maintenance for the first time doing Before Flights (B/Fs), turn arounds, and After Flights (A/Fs). I have also spent four years in the bays doing structural repairs on panels, tailerons, rudders, fins and wings.
At my home base in the UK there is a R/C model aircraft club but its in a decline, there are several model boat clubs in the area primarily at Kings Lynn but it is getting the time off to go to the meetings or meet some of the members, because I work in a civilian organised environment where I am contracted to work for BAe for 37.5 hours a week!
In the Falklands we have replaced the Chuff numbers with 'Penguin boards', where your time to do is marked out on a suitable decorated board on the wall and a homemade penguin made from double bond is moved along the board each day. In the VASS office I am approaching the half way point or Ascension Island as our board shows the flight back home!
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« Reply #93 on: September 08, 2012, 02:44:59 pm »

Hi RAFl... I visited RAF Marham as a cadet (CCF/RAF) while still at school and they had RAF Washingtons there (B-29's) Amazing aircraft to go in.

They were there to fly around the U.K. to counter Soviet incursions, before the Dew Line radar was built
Like yourself, I was in Trade group 1 and got extra trade pay and I also got an extra 6d (old pence) for being a marksman on rifle and Bren gun.

My promotion from LAC to SAC (the ones who really run the RAF) included showing some practical work.  Mine was my just completed Veron Carribbean Coaster, model boat.
Sorry but must go out now and have a nice warm up in the sun!
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« Reply #94 on: September 08, 2012, 04:23:33 pm »

blimy  roycey you must be nearly as old as me to remember b 29 s i joined when the raf still had spits  hurrs and lancs my no was 4034853
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« Reply #95 on: September 08, 2012, 04:33:08 pm »

Hi Regiment, I did say I was at school!!!  anyway 5011650 J/T at your service, in those days we had one stripe upside down for a J/T. 

Visiting pongo officers (RAF Lyneham) would call you lance!  I think it is a 4 bladed prop now. 

When doing my training at RAF Yatesbury we had Lancs with sawn off wings to practice servicing in an aircraft.  Eventually I worked on Canberras where there is a lot less room.
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« Reply #96 on: September 09, 2012, 02:15:01 pm »

Its amazing to see how little has changed in the RAF! I trained on Jet Provosts built in the late 50s and early 60s before moving on to Jaguar GR1 for advanced aircraft maintenance and even worked on Canberra wings/tailplanes for advanced structural repairs! The difference now is you do basic training as a recruit at Halton where learn how to be an airman before moving on to your trade training which for me was RAF Cosford.
The B-29s are still remembered at Marham with many paintings and models in the respective Messes. The J/T rank unfortunately is becoming redundant, the rank badge is a four bladed propeller, I joined up just as the decision to remove the rank from the service was agreed, so now the rank structure is AC2, AC1, LAC, SAC, SAC(T) the T stands for technician, and then CPL and SGT. You remember the good old days, which I can still remember (just), when techies got extra pay now we are paid the same as everyone else!

Nothing much has happened here recently apart from the wind getting up again and the temperature supposedly approaching double figures! My trip to Stanley was postponed because I was called into work 3 hours early <*< really boring hardly any work to do just guide a jet in and wait for an hour, but its enough to mess up the entire weekends plans! 
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« Reply #97 on: September 09, 2012, 03:29:47 pm »

blimy  roycey you must be nearly as old as me to remember b 29 s i joined when the raf still had spits  hurrs and lancs my no was 4034853

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« Reply #98 on: September 09, 2012, 05:50:19 pm »

  time flys i remember canberras of 39 sqdn at wyton 1961 cannot remember the other sqdn..but thay  flew the one before the nimrod  i was in charge of aircrew feeding couple of valiants now and again  gordon
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« Reply #99 on: September 09, 2012, 05:53:41 pm »

  but all rocks are clever well one sqdn were   are gordon
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