Topic: Napoleon Bonaparte in trouble (Read 14348 times)

wartsilaone · « **on:** November 17, 2012, 11:15:19 am »

couldn't happen to nicer ship.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224764/French-passenger-ferry-Napoleon-Bonaparte-left-listing-ocean-moorings-snap-60mph-winds.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

http://www.citizen.co.za/citizen/action/media/downloadFile?media_fileid=592174&a=636&s=575x397

Ali

tugmad · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2012, 12:01:02 pm »

oops a daisy

unbuiltnautilus · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2012, 01:24:13 pm »

They paid someone to design that?

Another beautiful contribution to maritime design......

cos918 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:28:02 pm »

Sorry this is an old story happened a few weeks ago. Typical DM late and sloppy with there storys.
Shame as the Napoleon Bonaparte is a very nice cruise ferry. She was ahead of her time when she was built. She had been on my list of ferrys to sail on. So if she is rebuilt I will try and go on her.

John

TheLongBuild · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2012, 02:48:18 pm »

may be old story but i did not see it first time around

cos918 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2012, 03:03:55 pm »

was on several ship forums
john

unbuiltnautilus · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2012, 05:06:02 pm »

Old or new, still ugly

tobyker · « **Reply #7 on:** November 18, 2012, 08:51:21 pm »

Serves them right for designing so unsightly a ship

TheLongBuild · « **Reply #8 on:** November 18, 2012, 09:16:25 pm »

Quote from: cos918 on November 17, 2012, 03:03:55 pm

was on several ship forums
john

maybe but none of the ones I saw.
Seems as if modern cruise ships are haveing a bad time of it this year..

wartsilaone · « **Reply #9 on:** November 19, 2012, 01:47:04 pm »

This one's number 1 on my fugly list (not a type error) So much so I had to redesign her.

Nope Still ugly.

Ali

deadwood · « **Reply #10 on:** December 03, 2012, 01:11:08 am »

I know, hardly comparable, as they are different types of ships.
But I find her design less ugly and even more pleasing to the eye than for instance those of all the latest Cunard Queens, including QM2.

cos918 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:16:27 pm »

well she has been salvaged and is now in refit
john

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=sv&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DnLDGF_9Ccjk%26feature%3Dyoutu.be&usg=ALkJrhjZUWVAJKHquflmFj2jes7Kn4DmUA

Netleyned · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2013, 05:46:01 pm »

Ugly they may be, but the operators need bums on seats or in cabins to pay the crew buy the diesel, pay the port dues and above all show a return for the shareholders.
The box shape is much more efficient than aesthetic curves.
The days of good looking cruise liners and cruise ferries is long gone IMHO

Ned

SHADOWFLEET · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2013, 07:53:30 pm »

i dont know why they bother building ships like that so high off the water. no wonder they tip an sink. i would of thought with titanic they would of learned. big pasanger ships like that all the weight is in the middle of the boat an of course once they topple over . by bad weather most of them sink unless there in habour.
i dont think i ever want to build a model like it . just in case of cross wind. will more then likely sink it .
but i bet within 2 hours of post some is going to show me a model one sailing in bad weather

derekwarner · « **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2013, 08:14:18 pm »

Do these new box boats not have computer controlled underwater fins & high speed Port to Stdb water ballast transfer systems & the like to compensate for wave & swell & windage against the massive above waters surfaces?
Well

my computer occasionally breaks down & I get cross

....the A380 airbus are experiencing the occasional minor electrical glitch

& NASA have experienced the occasional mid flight computer failure

...& after all a computer is just an improved version of an ABACUS

.....Derek

cos918 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 08, 2013, 08:46:19 pm »

While ferrys are getting bigger they are very safe and stabel. the NP is of a very rare breed (cruise ferry ) these ferry are more than just a means of transport they provide short cruise. The best exampel in the uk is Brittany ferries Pont Aven. these is why they are big it for all tha cabins shops restraunts and other lesuire areas.
Here is a very very nice model of her. Sorry it only on a pool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iOyuPbP2SA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjqxKls7h8

john

MarkScratchBuilt · « **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2013, 08:59:41 pm »

Quote from: unbuiltnautilus on November 17, 2012, 05:06:02 pm

Old or new, still ugly

Yes it is!!

wartsilaone · « **Reply #17 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:05:58 pm »

Lets not forget that the reason the ships was damaged is not because she's so high, it's because she was holed bellow the water line. Could happen to any ship.
My opinion about this ship has changed slightly recently. It's not the design I don't like, it's the livery and those green windows.

Ali

carlmt · « **Reply #18 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:21:57 pm »

Cheers for posting those 'you tube' clips John - beautiful model of an ugly ship......

The work in that model is astounding......
Carl

cos918 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:49:35 pm »

Hi Carl very nice model,what i would give to own that. I think she is a nice looking ferry. I love the look of her funnels and that sky room. here one at 1:1250 oh I want one.

john

wartsilaone · « **Reply #20 on:** February 08, 2013, 09:52:50 pm »

A beautiful model of an ugly ship.

Ali

cos918 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 08, 2013, 10:04:08 pm »

come on why is she ugly there is a lot worse that her. Her half sister is a lot worse

john

wartsilaone · « **Reply #22 on:** February 08, 2013, 10:14:54 pm »

The funnels are too big and those green windows are awful.

Ali

cos918 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 08, 2013, 10:59:28 pm »

I think her funnel are what makes her ,gives her that stance.
her half sister Danielle casanova funnel makes her wrong

John

carlmt · « **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2013, 11:26:14 pm »

To my eye, they are both too short by about 50%.

If they were stretched by half their length, then the proportions of length to breadth to height would come close to balance..... and the funnels might take on a better proportion in relation to the rest of the ship......but that 'bulge' over the bridge has got to go regardless!!! Looks like it bumped its head.

Carl

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