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ikledud

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newbie prop question
« on: February 25, 2013, 08:21:39 pm »

Hi I'm after some advice on props, propshafts, and motors I have a cat style hull with prop tunnels either side the tunnels are about 40mm wide, the boat will weigh aprox 4kg unloaded and 6kg loaded, I'm not after massive speeds but plenty of grunt would be nice, thanks in advance.
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Re: newbie prop question
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 01:34:26 am »

at first instance i would say a 2 bladed high pitch prop. Probably be 35mm to fit into the 40mm tunnel with a little clearance. Unless of course you could make a 40mm fit in there. Propsaft would be to suit propeller. So if you get a M4 thread propeller then prop shaft for m4. Also if your going to run high rpm it may be worth looking into the propshafts with intergrated ballbearing.
 
Motor i not sure. someone will be along with better knowledge than me and probably prove me wrong
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Re: newbie prop question
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 03:55:56 pm »

A heavy bait boat is never going to be fast enough to justify fitting what are essentially racing props, and the changes in direction of the water flow in front of the props is going to help make sure of that.  35mm, three blade props, shaft to suit prop thread, motors a pair of 545s run at about the voltage that they say on the label.  Props that live inside tubes often have more squared-off ends.  It will help to measure the diameter available accurately.
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Re: newbie prop question
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2013, 10:41:05 pm »

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Hi thanks for your quick reply on my post, I have measured the tunnels and at there widest they are 40mm, could you recommend a make of prop I should be looking at, and would I need LH and RH props, will the motors u suggested be ok for a 12v system? I presume that's what voltage will be coming out of my esc's ( I have viper marine 20's) thanks again
15volt 545s will be fine on a 12volt system, since a fully charged 12v battery is 14 and a bit volts, and a Viper 20 is well capable of handling a 545.  35mm plastic props would be a good start.  Once the system is settled and proved to work, you could go to a size bigger than the tunnel, and cut down the blades to fit, giving the more squared off, but still radiused, end.  Plastic because they are generally cheaper than brass, and thus experimentation is less painful. 
Counter rotating is good on a single hull with two props, probably doesn't make a blind bit of difference on a twin hull with the props in tunnels.
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To aid cheap experimenting, below is a drawing of a blank for making a prop from sheet brass.  Resize, print on paper, stick paper to sheet brass, drill hole in middle and size to suit propshaft, solder a brass nut over the hole, cut out the blades with snips, tidy with file, tweak blades for pitch.  You now have a custom prop, variations are only limited by imagination and your abilities with a school compass.
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Re: newbie prop question
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2013, 10:47:35 pm »

That's great thanks for all your help, do I just mount the motors on a mount parallel with the hull and have the propshaft straight? I'm guessing even though the props will be in tunnels reverse shouldn't be a problem?
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Re: newbie prop question
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 04:03:24 pm »

The motors will tend to mount where they fit - best arrangement is to ensure that they align with the shaft. Looking around the main site http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/ you will find useful tips, searching and just looking around the forum will provide lots of information.  Reverse shouldn't be a problem - that happens with waterjets - in reverse the water has nowhere to come from.  Somebody might have done something similar in the Bait Boat section.
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