Topic: Boat for Estuary Waves (Read 5487 times)

crock · « **on:** May 10, 2013, 04:58:40 pm »

Hi,

I'm looking for ideas for a boat for some, on occasion, rather large waves, either a wizz across the top or a plough through them. I do have a spare Hectoperm on the shelf !! also trying not to spend too much

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I currently have a Precedent Perkassa (36"), a Revelle Corvette and a Lesro Rapier (?) (40"). Keeping the water out is obviously the biggest problem

Looking forward to your ideas

Crock

crock · « **Reply #1 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:26:44 pm »

Lots of reads but no suggestions ;-( I would like another warship but something that is fairly easy to build, 4-5 feet long ??? so it wouldn't look too silly pounding thro' 2-3ft waves. Would Deans Marine be an option ? My little Matchbox Corvette does struggle in the bigger waves and wind but i don't just want to be a fair weather boater.

open to any ideas, something that would be out in a normal rough sea ......

catengineman · « **Reply #2 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:51:15 pm »

Anchor handler
Emergency Towing Vessel
ERRV
yes tug types but then again they do venture out or are there when the waves get rough

crock · « **Reply #3 on:** September 16, 2013, 06:43:23 pm »

Hi, thanks for the suggestions

What is an "ERRV" ? and can you suggest a supplier for either the hulls or a kit please ? ( kit or a least a semi-kit would be good )

catengineman · « **Reply #4 on:** September 16, 2013, 06:52:10 pm »

Emergency Response Rescue Vessel.
I am sorry but I would not know of a kit to suit Estuary waters though I'm sure that there will be some suggestions.

Tug types I would look at around the 1:32nd size or Tito Neri.
You could get the Hull and then build your own as you want which is sometimes better as you can alter the way the superstructure fits and seals against ingress

Blaven03 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 16, 2013, 07:09:28 pm »

A trawler, what there designed for.

John W E · « **Reply #6 on:** September 16, 2013, 07:53:59 pm »

hi ya, 2 good models

1 is the Boston Blenheim fishing trawler - I have sailed mine in a few bad weather situations - I built the model from the free plan which came with Model Boats magazine - and I think the plan may still be available.
also
2. Ireland class fishing protection vessel - the 1 I built is HMS Orkney she was built from Jacobin plans the plans are a bit expensive but well worth it.
I believe Kingston Mouldings do these hulls from fibre glass and also sell the plans.
They key to sailing any model in any rough weather/waves is to make sure its well sealed and waterproof and make sure all fixtures and fittings are well secured - cos they tend to be knocked and fall off after constantly being wet.
aye
John bluebird

http://www.kingstonmouldings.com/pdbostonblenheim.htm

http://www.kingstonmouldings.com/pdislandclass.htm

NFMike · « **Reply #7 on:** September 16, 2013, 08:03:06 pm »

Any seagoing vessel should do in theory.
All (?) you have to do as a modeller is what they do on the prototypes: make it stable and reasonably watertight (with a bulge pump).
The only catch is that model superstructures tend to be proportionately heavier than prototype, so picking something with a lower profile and broader beam (eg. not a warship) would be a safer bet stability wise.

warspite · « **Reply #8 on:** September 16, 2013, 10:22:24 pm »

a sub, no problem with big waves, just go under them

Umi_Ryuzuki · « **Reply #9 on:** September 17, 2013, 07:57:48 am »

RNLI life boat, or a pilot boat.

Offshore supply or AHST.

condeh · « **Reply #10 on:** September 17, 2013, 11:30:17 am »

Like has been said, any seagoing boat should do, but being scale boats they are also experiencing scale weather. Sure, a ship may be designed to survive a 100yr storm, but if it is effectively going out into a 100yr storm each day, its going to come a cropper eventually!

Neil · « **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2013, 11:38:47 am »

a nice Clyde class lifeboat, with big engines...............and I know where one is for sale, lol

Six foot long......she'd sail anywhere, lol

you can either have the model for a grand.....................or the real thing for a hundred grand............take yer pick,

seathug · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2013, 12:06:09 pm »

Now thats wbat I call a boat
Ibig and wide

geez I wish we have a rc boat hobby store here
I noticed why isnt that much hobby shops in us for tugboats?
Mostly uk

crock · « **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2013, 04:42:46 pm »

Hi Neil, I had seen that one for sale, if only .......... if only the premium bond had come up

Is that one of the Loch Ness charity sail boats ?

Blaven03 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 17, 2013, 07:51:11 pm »

Go on youtube and search rc trawler. Good vid of black and white our lass showing what she can do in weather

Neil · « **Reply #15 on:** September 17, 2013, 08:33:02 pm »

Quote from: crock on September 17, 2013, 04:42:46 pm

Hi Neil, I had seen that one for sale, if only .......... if only the premium bond had come up Is that one of the Loch Ness charity sail boats ?

yes, Crock...........was one of the trio......burnt the motors out......I should have fitted much larger ones.
neil.

crock · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2013, 03:53:49 pm »

Hi Blaven,

rc trawler comes up with loads of options, do you have a link you could paste ?

Crock

Blaven03 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2013, 05:33:48 pm »

Crock,

Not sure how to get the link with iPad but if you copy and paste North Sea II RC Trawler into youtube or even google it comes up. It's a 7 min 14 secs vid.

Blaven

seathug · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2013, 05:51:55 pm »

Quote from: Blaven03 on September 18, 2013, 05:33:48 pm

Crock,

Not sure how to get the link with iPad but if you copy and paste North Sea II RC Trawler into youtube or even google it comes up. It's a 7 min 14 secs vid.

Blaven

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avtEvRuMTBE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Amazing lol handles the waves like nothing

Blaven03 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2013, 05:57:18 pm »

That's the one, cheers. Would handle far greater.

Arrow5 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2013, 08:26:00 pm »

The blunt nosed Springers ride right over the waves, plenty of eight weight down low helps too.... oh and a streamlined top helps.

crock · « **Reply #21 on:** September 21, 2013, 04:54:57 pm »

Hi Chaps, thanks, seen the link and vid.

Crock

PS Looks good but I think I would like something a bit bigger .......

hmsantrim · « **Reply #22 on:** September 22, 2013, 12:25:44 am »

RE like something bigger, what like thisMT Gleaner Scale: 32nd scale
Hull: 53.5 inch
Beam: 12 inch This hull makes up into and handsome vessel capable of taking on the heaviest of weather conditions.
Frank

Neil · « **Reply #23 on:** September 22, 2013, 11:02:59 am »

Frank................my mate is making one of these MT Gleaners at the moment, and sadly ( IMHO ) it has to be the worst representation of a deep sea trawler that he and I have ever seen...and living in Fleetwood most my life I have seen many....the original designer of it must have been blind when he worked on the "builders" drawings.....honestly it is truly awful, the shape and lines are all wrong, the rudder skeg is nearly an inch wide representing a real skeg of 3foot wide and the bow shape is totally untrue to the real ship that it represented.

he has had to do so many re designs to it to get it looking half decent that he would have been quicker and easier building a new one.
sadly the design and moulding goes back many years long before Metcalf Mouldings and now Models by design took it on, and they cannot be blamed for any of the disparities with it towards the real ship but it is not one I would recommend to anyone, especially a first time builder.

neil.

Arrow5 · « **Reply #24 on:** September 22, 2013, 01:34:00 pm »

Now if we could just persuade the Aberdeen Maritime Museum to take a molding off this plug .....! Problem solved.

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